P M Qs - Why Should The Pm Apologise?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68229785

It's fair game, Labour still don't know what a woman is.

[DTCwordfan]

what, naomi, as in making a clean breast of things 

Beer Warmer - what do you expect of such a dick.

[fiveleaves]

The number of Trans people in this country is very, very small. Crazy that they get so much attention be it from Labour or the Tories.

Politicians should pick on ginger haired people instead

[fripfrip]

Atheist 14:19,no it's not a complicated issue either male or female nothing complicated there.

utitled17:45,stop sitting on the fence and say what you really feel.

[Deskdiary]

Sunak was being truthful; SKS couldn't define a woman (of course he could, he's married to one, but he wouldn't define it) and then he rowed back some time later and said 1 in 1000 women could have a penis. So if anybody was wrong today it was SKS because he weaponised the mother being in attendance.

[Stableford]

If anyone should apologise, its Starmer.  To every woman.

[Hymie]

Being a Tory means you never have to apologise for anything you do or say.

[Mozz71]

It was an insensitive statement from Sunak, given that Starmer had paid tribute to Brianna's mother moments before. Irrelevant of your opinions on the trans community, more empathy towards a parent who had just lost a child was neccessary. He should apologise, but a public apology isn't needed, a private one to Mrs Ghey is more appropriate. 

[Stableford]

He has nothing to apologise for, he was absolutely right.

[Peter Pedant]

No  - - - he should RESIGN !

come on this is AB

[Deskdiary]

Why should he apologise, either publicly or privately?

This wasn't a jibe about transgenders, it was a jibe about SKS not being willing to define a woman, and then later saying that 0.01% of women have penises. It was SKS who then connected it with the dead person's mother.

If anybody should be apologising it is SKS, as he turned the tragic death into a political rebuttal/petulant rant.

[Peter Pedant]

sozza that was the Col Madd part of me speaking

[Peter Pedant]

Being a Tory means you never have to apologise for anything you do or say.

good one Hyme. can anyone place - never apologise never explain - some say the Iron Duke

(the site director took this to ridiculour extremes)

[naomi24]

No politician should be required to adjust his speech to suit the perceived sensitivities of those who may be present in the House.  I've no doubt that Brianna's parents are well aware that women don't have penises - as we all are.

[Untitled]

the point is that starmer acknowledges the gender identity of trans women (who are an extremely small minority of people) and sunak with his fellow tories happen to think that's very funny... plenty of tories want gender recognition for trans people done away with entirely because they do not believe in being trans for ideological reasons

as i say this attitude to trans people is not all that different to that of brianna ghey's murderers. they'll be as "polite" and "respectful" as they need to be until they have them where they want them... and then have the gall to lecture others about being "civil". occasionally the mask slips and you get jibes like this or nastier ones about "chicks with ***" or whatever. we have all encountered it and it isn't funny or clever... it's pure bigotry toward a vulnerable maligned and very small group of people.. expressed by people who like to think of themselves as respectable and "decent". 
 

well there's nothing decent about it. some of us see right through it!

[Ellipsis]

You wonder why Brianna's mother was even in Parliament, don't you ...

 

[Untitled]

it isn't the first time sunak has said it and i imagine most trans people and their loved ones are well aware of his attitude. i doubt very much that she was shocked...

brianna ghey's father has asked for an apology but with greatest respect to him i don't see the point... an apology is valueless if it isn't sincere and sunak isn't sincere about anything at all. he's an empty shell that wears the skin of a person. 

[lankeela]

Doesn't the leader of the opposition get sight of what the PM is going to discuss (and vice versa)?  If so this seems to me to be a set up and his faux shock was embarrassing.  

[Untitled]

it's the other way around for PMQs... the pm gets briefed on what the LO will ask about and he chose to respond to an unrelated question with a dig about trans people 

[naomi24]

untitled, women don't have penises.  They just don't.

 

Ellipses, something about her call for under 16s to be blocked from social media on mobile phones wasn't it?

[Old_Geezer]

"Funny" doesn't come into it. If one's view is that some do then maybe they haven't understood the situation.