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Every Muslim country in the world is a s... - hole and yet the Muslim Brotherhood & all it's derivatives in the UK and elsewhere would like to see Britain become a Muslim country with the necessary add-on of Sharia law & all the trimmings and many seem hell-bent on helping them to do it in the name of 'diversity'.
14:59 Tue 06th Aug 2024
Corcoran says; 'One month in, and our new Labour government has already made a complete hash of it. The UK has descended into chaos. Major riots are breaking across the country instigated by all political extremes. Our Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper, has pretty much disappeared, apart from the one breakfast TV appearance where she was interviewed by her husband – former Labour MP Ed Balls. Meanwhile, our Prime Minister has done nothing but further inflame the tensions.
Putting that aside, our new government has decided it would rather see our pensioners freeze than upset their friends at the World Economic Forum, announcing that they are going to take away the Winter Fuel Allowance for pensioners. It is a move that will only save them around £1.5bn, despite still committing to spending over £11bn on overseas climate aid, as well as announcing a public sector pay rise costing around £10bn – with some public sector workers getting a pay rise of up to 22 per cent or 10 times the current rate of inflation.
Migrant crossings have now reached a record high, no doubt further encouraged by Labour’s decision to scrap the Rwanda plan and wave through over 90,000 asylum applications.
Major Infrastructure projects have been scrapped hampering our long-term growth. The Higher Education Freedom of Speech Bill, that would ensure freedom of speech is upheld at our universities, has been canned and tax rises are coming.
The first 30 days have been a disaster and Labour are entirely to blame.
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So it's all new stuff. And she didn't even mention the appointment of David Lammy as Foreign secretary, who will most probably have to represent Britain to the new US president Donald Trump, of whom he has said he is a woman-hating, neo-Nazi-sympathising sociopath”.
OMG!
TTT
Right...I'm back and have read your post from 12.18 and honestly I'm not concerned with the overall increase of the number of Muslims - because my personal exposure to those who follow that faith hasn't been negative.
I have a theory about it - it's personalisation.
If you know Muslims are individuals, rather than as a big group it becomes difficult to square what you see in the papers with your friends.
When I think of Muslim, I think of Mr and Mrs Aziz who lived next door to us in the 80s, of my maths teacher (Mr Ali) who managed to steer me to a miraculous O level (something that shocked the both of us), and of friends I went to school with.
Khandro
"David Lammy as Foreign secretary, who will most probably have to represent Britain to the new US president Donald Trump"
The U.S. election result has not been decided yet. Also, even if Lammy has ro deal with Trump, it shouldn't be a problem seeing as his Vice President pick (JD Vance) called Trump America's Hitler.
sp: I cut & pasted the article (& attributed it) because you didn't appear to have followed the link.
On another issue; I you don't understand the objectives & motivation of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) which is the UK Branch of the international, Muslim Brotherhood, it's high time you wised up, I suggest.
khandro
Thanks...I did follow the link, but y'know...it was to the Spectator. A magazone which is basically The Daily Express in nice shoes.
As part of my "wising up" efforts, I've looked into the question of the relationship between the MCB and the International Muslim Brotherhood and indeed - I've established it's a bit more complicated than one being the branch of the other.
I read this Q&A on the MCB site:
Is the Muslim Council of Britain an Islamist organisation? What relationship does it have with organisations such as the Muslim Brotherhood or Jamaat-e-Islami?
The Muslim Council of Britain is a British umbrella body with British organisations affiliated to it. We reject any assertion that the Muslim Council of Britain is unduly influenced by any outside groups or tendencies. Each affiliate has to be based in the UK with its own constitution. Our membership reflects the broad diversity of tradition, thought and outlook that exists in both Sunni and Shia branches of our faith.
...and decided I needed to go somewhere unbiased. So I dug up a House of Commons report on the MCB. It appears from that report (link below) that the Muslim Brotherhood whilst instrumental in the establishment of the MCB have a closer relationship to the new Islamic Society of Britain (ISB), dominated the Muslim Association of Britain (MAB).
...I think.
Social media (including X - Twitter) have allowed false information to be posted which motivated nasty people to indulge in violence. Social media make billions by using their platforms very cleverly so as to maximise profit. But they seem not to be clever enough to prevent liars and rabble-rousers from having a free rein. The EU battles to extract taxes from them, but the UK seems not to do that. Extracting taxes seems to be one possible way of making them clean up their act.
14:19 thanks for your reply. I feel though that you have been only exposed to the fluffy bunny side. Perhaps because you know some personally and presumably trust the moderate outer layer they show to the world. I know some too via work and we just get on with work so it never really comes up. Do you think that they are not all aiming for the world caliphate? death or conversion? Do you think if that gets far enough your former docile behaviour will count for something? Will it take routine extermination of gays, TGs etc for you to finally realise?
TTT
Not soft and fluffy - remember, this was South London in the 80s!
When you know people are friends and work colleagues and schoolmates, you tend to gravitate to people whose company you enjoy and vice verse.
I don't who you grew up with but I can honestly say my experience is that Muslims were boring, funny, clever, stupid, embarrassing and hard-working depending on who you met (basically like everyone else - they were individuals).
Also, I found that Muslims of my age group (at least those I knew) simply weren't fussed about "the gay thing". They were more concerned with which football team you supported.
I do recognise though that quite frequently gay people will be told that Muslims are the enemy - I think it's always best to ignore those who try to pit one minority against another.
By the way - taking about fluffy bunny side - did you see this???
Even the Muslims I grew up with weren't this good. This is insane!
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Every Muslim country in the world is a s... - hole and yet the Muslim Brotherhood & all it's derivatives in the UK and elsewhere would like to see Britain become a Muslim country with the necessary add-on of Sharia law & all the trimmings and many seem hell-bent on helping them to do it in the name of 'diversity'.
wiltsman: "Really TTT? So you compare yourself to Churchill, you are so modest!" - TTT no I am not don't make up drivel. You can see what I'm saying so stop being idiotic.
As you accuse me of being idiotic and writing drivel I think I'm allowed a right of reply
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So, I make up drivel, do I? This is coming from a man who regularly writes using Cockney rhyming slang, sometimes so vague that I have to ask Google what you meant! You really have tunnel vision regarding many of the topics here on AB, woe betide anyone who can't see your point of view.
You often write drivel, even this afternoon you derided another ABer by stating they only saw the 'fluffy bunny' side of things. meaning they should acknowledge TTT's 'correct replies'!
Who's the idiotic one? Who's the one who writes drivel?
Just calmly re-read some of the comments you churn out daily.
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18:36 Oh dear, Alans in a Brahms? Just because I empathised with Churchill you accuse me of comparing myself to Churchill. That was not indicated it was just you trying to be clever and now you are mouthing off because you feel silly, happens all the time on here. So now you try and compare my posting style with your foolishness because I used the word "drivel". Every thing I post is well known slang, sad that people would rather pretend to be thick than join in in the spirit in which it is intended. It would be a dull old site if we all wrote like an English teacher.
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There are left & right supporters on AB but I doubt if any of them are in the slightest way "extreme".
The fact that such opposing views are being so forcefully discussed here does not bode well for what the more extreme members of our society think and will do. Starmer better get his act together & quickly.
"From the 70s until the the 90s, the white population of London fell by 20% - but that's not something I would've noticed."
The fact that you have not noticed the changes in London does not mean they didn’t happen. In fact the changes since the 1990s have been even more profound. In 1991 the white British population of London stood at 5.33m or 79.8% of the total. The Asian population was 0.69m(10.3%). These were out of a total population of 6.68m.
By 2021 the total population had grown by 2.2m to 8.80m. But the white British population had declined by 0.6m to just 4.73m (53.3% of the total). Meanwhile the Asian population had soared by more than 160% to 1.13m (20.5% of the total). So in the space of a little over 30 years, the white British population of London has declined from almost four fifths to under a half.
It has been decades since any significant areas of London have been “monocultural”. But these are astonishing shifts in the demographics of a large city over a short time (in demographic terms). More than half of the increase in the population of London in those 30 years was attributable to Asians. The rest was attributable to other non-white British people. You may not have noticed this but lots of people did and for many of them it is a profoundly disturbing statistic.
“When I think of Muslim, I think of Mr and Mrs Aziz who lived next door to us in the 80s, of my maths teacher (Mr Ali) who managed to steer me to a miraculous O level (something that shocked the both of us), and of friends I went to school with.”
I think you’ll find things may have moved on a bit.
There are some areas of London where white British people are very much in the minority. In Tower Hamlets, for example, they account for only one in five of the population. In neighbouring Newham white British people account for just 13% of residents whereas Asians make up almost 50% of residents with 32% saying they are Muslims. If you take a drive down Barking Road from the North Circular towards West Ham when Friday prayers have just chucked out (as I have occasion to do from time to time) you might understand the concerns of that 13%.
Government Ministers don’t travel down Barking Road on Friday afternoon. If they did they might understand the concerns of the people there and in scores of places like that across the country where similar circumstances prevail. I condemn unreservedly those taking part in violence and disorder. But the government ignores those concerns at their peril because there are many people in this country who are easily led. And they are not all "Far Right knuckledraggers".
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