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//And yet many muslims simply ignore the parts of the koran....// What you fail to understand, untitled, is that Islamic literature (Muslims don't abide solely by the Koran)  provides for every eventuality, and everything they do - from the best to the worst - can, from their literature, be justified in one way or another.  Islam is not simply a religion - it...
12:15 Sat 07th Dec 2024

Of course you will, untitled - and you'll remain in ignorance.

indeed how could anyone possibly have the temerity to disagree with naomi? 🤣

you just assume yourself to be correct. not all of us rate your authority that highly. 

Untitled, you may disagree with me all you like but that doesn't negate your ignorance of this subject.  That is abundantly clear.  Tell me, why do you compare Jewish people in Europe to Muslims in Europe - or anywhere else for that matter?

because i think the way that people speak about muslims now is comparable in some important respects to the way that people talked about european jews 100 years ago. 

But you think they are saying it for the same reasons - and they're not. 

oh so you agree that they are comparable in some important respects then?

None that you'd recognise.

you do agree then. 
 

right. what's your problem exactly? 

No I don't agree - and Islam isn't my problem - it's the Western world's problem.

what's your problem with me?

I don't have a problem with you.

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exiting the naomi funhouse now boys and girls

//No I don't agree - and Islam isn't my problem - it's the Western world's problem.//

It's also Untitled's problem, but he's so full of self-righteousness he fails to see it.

why in your opinion should I be fearful of the muslims i know khandro?

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I'll give that link a miss.

They were permitted into Europe, and, or otherwise.
They will make your home their home. It's the natural order of things...take advantage of kindness's and exploit apathy and stupidity.

"why do you think this is a problem..."

Because it is quite clear to me that the Islamification of most of Europe and the UK in particular is inevitable and I believe that Islam has no place in the UK. It is a pernicious religion which prevails over almost every aspect of many of its followers' lives. It is medieval in its approach; it is patriarchal and subjugates women alarmingly; it vilifies gay people; it criminalises activities which no normal society would see fit to prohibit; it insists on controlling or restricting behaviour which is perfectly normal and which no western society would dream of admonishing.

"...and what do you think should be done about it?"

Nothing can be done about it as the die is cast. The only way would be by compulsory deportation as was done from Spain in the early 17th century. But that only involved a few hundred thousand people and took about ten years. There are 4m in the UK alone and even if they could, no government would have the stomach for it.

"...people used to say very similar things about jews 100 years ago."

I have the advantage of having lived in North London for 25 years. In particular I lived in an area with a very high concentration of Jewish people (in fact it is home to the largest community of Hasidic Jews in Europe). I also have the misfortune of now having to regularly visit an area of London which has one of the highest concentrations of Muslims in the UK. I can tell you from those experiences that there is simply no comparison between the two. I have no problems visiting Stamford Hill. But a trip down the Barking Road on a Friday afternoon is only to be done as quickly as possible with all the car doors firmly locked.

"..there are very good reasons that white brits do not start as many families as they used to..."

There are. And whilst they may be influenced by the factors you mention, they are not the principle reasons. As well as that, those factors will also influence Muslims but they don’t seem to care too much about them.  As you say, they think nothing of living 10-up in accommodation designed for four. Many white people have resources to raise large families. But they don't because they realise that the UK (in common with the rest of the world) is suffering from over-population and to add to that problem is extremely irresponsible. Followers of Islam have no such qualms and are determined to expand their following by every means possible.

why in your opinion should I be fearful of the muslims I know….?”

You misunderstand. You need have no fear of individual Muslims (though I imagine that among them, as among all religions and none, there is a smattering of unpleasant characters best avoided). It is Islam which you should fear.

If I may add to that^, Judaism doesn't seek converts - it doesn't want converts - in fact converting to Judaism is a complex process.  Judaism has no aspiration to take control.  Islam, on the other hand, will accept anyone - its ultimate purpose an Islamic world - and as far as Europe is concerned its getting there, our complacency and sheer stupidity the culprits.  

why do you believe that islam has no place in the uk?

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