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Why can't we all get on?
I have not been here long but get increasingly frustrated by the unhelpful and almost racist comments of some people on here.
Why can't all the people in this country live in peace. To constantly pick on muslims is very unfair. They only came here for a better life and I think it is the duty of all British people to ensure that they integrate as best as possible.
We should all go along to our local mosque and ask what we can do to help the muslim community. Maybe we could give them financial help or prey along side them to give them some sort of comfort during their hardship due to the narrow minded bigots in this country.
Perhaps it would help if people better understood islam. Maybe it would be good if islam was taught in our schools. I think that this would help us to understand muslims better and make for a better and more understanding society.
If we don't act now, we risk inflaming the extremists muslims. Better to spiritually connect with those that would advocate terrorism and try to lure them away from extremism.
Why can't all the people in this country live in peace. To constantly pick on muslims is very unfair. They only came here for a better life and I think it is the duty of all British people to ensure that they integrate as best as possible.
We should all go along to our local mosque and ask what we can do to help the muslim community. Maybe we could give them financial help or prey along side them to give them some sort of comfort during their hardship due to the narrow minded bigots in this country.
Perhaps it would help if people better understood islam. Maybe it would be good if islam was taught in our schools. I think that this would help us to understand muslims better and make for a better and more understanding society.
If we don't act now, we risk inflaming the extremists muslims. Better to spiritually connect with those that would advocate terrorism and try to lure them away from extremism.
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Is this some kind of wind-up? Or are you very young and naive?
The trouble is we have been too accommodating, and I am afraid it is all one sided. They mainly refuse to intergrate with us, and the more we bend to their demands the more demands they make.
And if we have to pander to their whims in case we inflame them, then that is the time we no longer have a hold on our country. What would have happened if we had took this appeasement attitude way back in 1939, with the Nazis? They would have achieved domination over this country.
i have nothing against muslims but they must realise that this is mainly a Christian country, and should not expect us to alter our culture. They came to this country and if they are not happy to embrace our ways, then I am sorry but they should have chosen a Muslim country to reside in.
The trouble is we have been too accommodating, and I am afraid it is all one sided. They mainly refuse to intergrate with us, and the more we bend to their demands the more demands they make.
And if we have to pander to their whims in case we inflame them, then that is the time we no longer have a hold on our country. What would have happened if we had took this appeasement attitude way back in 1939, with the Nazis? They would have achieved domination over this country.
i have nothing against muslims but they must realise that this is mainly a Christian country, and should not expect us to alter our culture. They came to this country and if they are not happy to embrace our ways, then I am sorry but they should have chosen a Muslim country to reside in.
well said oldgit
Emma why is it racist to want to protect ones country and way of life ? It is an evolutionary trait to enhance survival, protecting ones reources, why do you think the vast majority of life, is territorial.
With every passing day we are losing more and more of our country and identity, is it wrong to want to protect it ?
We are only here because of a 3.5 billion year fight for survival, (and a few gazillion random mutational changes) why do people like yourself want to give it away overnight ?
please explain, i have yet to hear a convincing arguement.
Why do the vast majority of these people always expect the places they go to, to change to suit them ?
If they didnt like it hear, then why come , and for those that were born here why arent they adopting our culture and way of life, if they dont like it please go now , the soone r the better for the sake of this country and its future
Emma why is it racist to want to protect ones country and way of life ? It is an evolutionary trait to enhance survival, protecting ones reources, why do you think the vast majority of life, is territorial.
With every passing day we are losing more and more of our country and identity, is it wrong to want to protect it ?
We are only here because of a 3.5 billion year fight for survival, (and a few gazillion random mutational changes) why do people like yourself want to give it away overnight ?
please explain, i have yet to hear a convincing arguement.
Why do the vast majority of these people always expect the places they go to, to change to suit them ?
If they didnt like it hear, then why come , and for those that were born here why arent they adopting our culture and way of life, if they dont like it please go now , the soone r the better for the sake of this country and its future
Its their own fault, as i've said before, they are the only group who want everything in this country to change for them, over the years, we've had African, West Indians, Jews, Chinese etc, a complete mix of religeoun and nationalities, and they have all, without fail, lived within the laws of this country, without trying to change it.
Emma apears to be a Muslim herself. I'll be damned if Im gonna do the things she says. British pride and Honour come first. We have been more than accomodating to all of them. Pampering them!! Appeasing them!! And what have we got in return? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Except of course for a severe case of biting the hand that feeds you.
Why can't they be more accomodating, integrating and sincere and hard working like the Hindus, the Punjabis, the Indians, the other ethnic racial groups, who are proud to call themselves British!!
Why can't they be more accomodating, integrating and sincere and hard working like the Hindus, the Punjabis, the Indians, the other ethnic racial groups, who are proud to call themselves British!!
emma you mention narrow minded bigots...see some of the posts above. sadly the bigotry comes from the prime minister downwards to the core of this corrupt government. yesterday the PM said.......they are excluding themselves...it is uncomfortable for others (referring to the veil). This coming from a man who proclaimed that god was on his side and that he will answer to his maker (war on Iraq).
Women have worn the veil in this country for 100 years. Some nuns have habits that resemble the veil except that the face is partly visible. Their ears are covered and most of the habit overhangs the face. these are christian nuns. Few islamic women wear veils. Vast majority do not. This government has persecuted those who have made a honest lifestyle choice of wearing a veil based on their religious beliefs. They are made to think that their decision is wrong. IT IS NOT. THIS IS A FREE SOCIETY. Just as a british population is allowed to wear miniskirtsw and kiss in public, so is a british born muslim allowed to wear a veil.
This demonisation of the muslim community is a sinister and insidious process. The government is the main culprit in this. Shame on all the pople of this land who support this view propogated by a shameless and corrupt Blair.
Women have worn the veil in this country for 100 years. Some nuns have habits that resemble the veil except that the face is partly visible. Their ears are covered and most of the habit overhangs the face. these are christian nuns. Few islamic women wear veils. Vast majority do not. This government has persecuted those who have made a honest lifestyle choice of wearing a veil based on their religious beliefs. They are made to think that their decision is wrong. IT IS NOT. THIS IS A FREE SOCIETY. Just as a british population is allowed to wear miniskirtsw and kiss in public, so is a british born muslim allowed to wear a veil.
This demonisation of the muslim community is a sinister and insidious process. The government is the main culprit in this. Shame on all the pople of this land who support this view propogated by a shameless and corrupt Blair.
Emma, I totally agree wth your sentiments. I also find many of the posts on here to be based upon racist attitudes. I think a lot of it is due to media brainwashing portraying all mulims as being supporters of terrorism and as a group who dispise the British way of life. Most of the replies to this thread have already predictably been along the usual lines of "they come here but wont integrate" , "if they dont like it here why dont they go home", "this is a mainy christian country", "we are losing our identiy". I beleive that these type of comments are bred from an insecurity regarding a group most of these posters are likey have had little or no contact with. I agree wth you that a better understanding of Islam would help t fight these attitudes and create a more understanding society.
No it most certainly does not say it all hal - wanting to protect our country, our traditions, culture, society and laws does not make us small minded unitelligent bigots: wanting muslims to accept these facets of our country does not make us racist - we want them to integrate, but they are choosing not to and, in some cases, want to impose Sharia Law.
If anything they are being the small minded unintelligent bigots.
Suggesting that everybody who wants to see them accept our ways as small minded unintellgient bigots is idiocy on your part I'm afraid.
We are a largely christian country and yet we openly welcome and respect their religion, because we are a nice country and are nice people - compare this with Saudi Arabia, a muslim country where christianity is illegal - ILLEGAL f'christs sake.
If anything they are being the small minded unintelligent bigots.
Suggesting that everybody who wants to see them accept our ways as small minded unintellgient bigots is idiocy on your part I'm afraid.
We are a largely christian country and yet we openly welcome and respect their religion, because we are a nice country and are nice people - compare this with Saudi Arabia, a muslim country where christianity is illegal - ILLEGAL f'christs sake.
yea emma sounds like a great idea, while were are at it Ill go and pray with jews, sihks, hindus, catholics, protastants etc etc to, oh yea I actually have a job. Its funny you only picked out this social group, what wads the reson for this? do jews for example not deserves pity from your bleeding heart to??
First point - Why when talking about muslims and Islam does everybody immediately assume that they are all fundamentalists and extremists? And before I get the full back lash, yes, I quite agree, there are some muslims out there who do want to enforce Islam in Britain and I do not agree with this. In much the same way I don't agree with anyone shoving their culture/religion down someone elses throats whether they're jeehovah's witness, jewish, creationalist, catholic, christian... whatever!
Second Point - By responding to the few extremist muslims by tarring all muslims with the same brush, do you not think that perhaps you are helping them to achieve their aim of dividing the country and continueing this feud? When IRA were about in the 80's, did you think that all northern irish, catholic men were members?!
And finally - Yes I do think that islam should be touched on schools, along with all other types of religion as well, partly because it might teach tolerence, mainly because it's always nice to take an informed stance.
Second Point - By responding to the few extremist muslims by tarring all muslims with the same brush, do you not think that perhaps you are helping them to achieve their aim of dividing the country and continueing this feud? When IRA were about in the 80's, did you think that all northern irish, catholic men were members?!
And finally - Yes I do think that islam should be touched on schools, along with all other types of religion as well, partly because it might teach tolerence, mainly because it's always nice to take an informed stance.
Why can't all the people in this country live in peace. To constantly pick on muslims is very unfair. They only came here for a better life
So did Gary Glitter to Vietnam, should we pander to his requirements also.
We should all go along to our local mosque and ask what we can do to help the muslim community.
They will respond, nothing, it all works in our favour at the moment anyway.
Maybe we could give them financial help or prey along side them to give them some sort of comfort during their hardship due to the narrow minded bigots in this country.
Thats a good idea, promotes equality with the other religions by alienating them alone for special treatment, I am sure attitudes would shift in their favour.......
Perhaps it would help if people better understood islam. Maybe it would be good if islam was taught in our schools.
Last time I did RE it was being taught, along with all the other faiths and their varying beliefs.
I think that this would help us to understand muslims better and make for a better and more understanding society.
Willingness to intergrate to their country of residences way of life. Acceptance of other faiths outside of their own would aid the understanding of Islam.
If we don't act now, we risk inflaming the extremists muslims.
Umm, forgive me, didn't the July bombings and WTC already happen!? The dimplomatic approach boat has already sailed methinks.
Better to spiritually connect with those that would advocate terrorism and try to lure them away from extremism.
It is not spiritual, mainly extremesists have hijacked the teachings and altered them to suit. Having to lure anybody away from terrorism should be done with harsher punishment, not incentive bonuses for not blowing things up!
You people claiming that the above posts are racist...
I have to tell you that it is people like you that have made the situation as bad as it is,
If you weren't all too scared to speak out against something that is unacceptable, for fear of being branded 'racist' then it is you who are the 'ignorant weeds' (as Dom.tuk says)
Emma, your idea is total lunacy!
To pray at the mosque with muslims? why should anybody feel a need or desire to do that?
other people mention that previous posts are from 'bigoted bullies'...
Again..not true!
The fact that Emma is posting,saying she is prepared to do this, shows exactly how wev'e been bullied by muslims and a fear of being called racist!
I am not, and i'm sure all the other posters are not racist, but it comes to something when you can't even attempt to point out whats right before your eyes...
The situation in this country is making us look like a push-over!
I have to tell you that it is people like you that have made the situation as bad as it is,
If you weren't all too scared to speak out against something that is unacceptable, for fear of being branded 'racist' then it is you who are the 'ignorant weeds' (as Dom.tuk says)
Emma, your idea is total lunacy!
To pray at the mosque with muslims? why should anybody feel a need or desire to do that?
other people mention that previous posts are from 'bigoted bullies'...
Again..not true!
The fact that Emma is posting,saying she is prepared to do this, shows exactly how wev'e been bullied by muslims and a fear of being called racist!
I am not, and i'm sure all the other posters are not racist, but it comes to something when you can't even attempt to point out whats right before your eyes...
The situation in this country is making us look like a push-over!
Emma asks why cant we all get on, and mentions Muslims.
Does she think that taking bombs on to underground trains and setting them off killing and maiming hundreds of innocent people is a way to make people like you.
Maybe if one of her family or friends were killed or injured by one of the bombs she may think differently.
Does she think that taking bombs on to underground trains and setting them off killing and maiming hundreds of innocent people is a way to make people like you.
Maybe if one of her family or friends were killed or injured by one of the bombs she may think differently.
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