Dope back up to class B....

[Loosehead]

So is the the governement admitting it was wrong to downgrade this mind altering Highly addictive, filth? Or is there a more sinister motive?

[Goodsoulette]

B to C...ooooh.....that'll stop everyone doing it or make them think twice about doing it. I got caught with pot so many times as a teenager, in the 90s when it was class c and never got as much as a caution. Had it confiscated a few times, asked for a receipt and got told not to be so cheeky and sent packing.

Wont make any diference to your average cannabis smoker.

[Loosehead]

It was a class b in the 90's it was made Class c only a couple of years ago, they are talking about reverting back to class b.

[Goodsoulette]

Yeah I know thats why I mentioned it will probably make no difference because I knew it was a class b when I used to get stopped and searched.

I think amphetamines and steroids and the like should have stayed class A even though I have in my past taken some of them too. Its a waste of bloody time and money. Re-educating children and making them having a sensible approach to recreational drugs would be better served and for gods sake, lets not tell them , No no no, its bad for you, if you take them you will end up dead or insane. Its a lie. The truth is best.

[Loosehead]

There is a good chance of ending up insane though. There are countless cases of Dope induced mental problems.

[jake-the-peg]

Brown wants to increase cannabis from C to B and Cameron wants to downgrade extacy from an A to a B
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4408360 .stm

Isn't this all a bit topsy turvey?

[Goodsoulette]

Through long term use though, Loosehead. Quite often these people who end up with with some form of mental illness are predisposed to it anyway and might have ended up that way naturally, or helped through long term use of prozac or vallies or something else.

Most users dont even smoke a teenth a day. A few joints a week are better for you than a few pints a day.

[Loosehead]

"A few joints a week are better for you than a few pints a day. "

Perlease, the tobacco (and it's 99% taken with tobacco) alone contains enough poisonous chemicals to sink a battleship, let alone the brain frying stuff that comes with it!

Oh and congratulations you are the winner of my "who will be the first to try and change the subject" competition!

[NJOK]

Be fair. While there is a chance of ending up insane, it's a tiny tiny one.

Are we now at a stage where the government tells us what we can and can't do, based on what it thinks is good for us?

Strange then, that it's perfectly legal to:

- commit suicide
- self-harm
- drink alcohol
- eat fatty foods
- smoke cigarettes
- stay up past bedtime

The government isn't reclassifying drugs according to any rational legal philosophy. It's a vote-winner for armchair moralists.

[4getmenot]

some people dont use tobacco loosehead, infact most of the people that I know that smoke cannabis dont smoke. And it has less effects than drink. No fighting for a start and can also help alot of health problems. You dont get a pint on the NHS do you. Pot should be legalised then I'd bet there's be few doing it.

[Goodsoulette]

I don't care, a few pints a day to you are acceptable to you, yet not with government guidelines. You believe blindly what people tell you is good for you because it suits you. You don't need tobacco to smoke pot.

Yes Jake, I entirely agree with you!

[4getmenot]

goosoulette is allowed her opinion loose so if you are that bothered can I be a runner up in the 'I didnt agree with the poster' competition. lol

[Goodsoulette]

Im kinda hoping the prize is a big fat bag of weed, 4get. Its no skin off my nose. If I push it do you reckon I can get some bolivian marching powder for the weekend.

[4getmenot]

I'll buy it off you

[Loosehead]

4getmenot: "no Fighting for a start......", No just stabbings and assorted violence.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/tx/cannabis.shtml

http://www.topix.net/news/drugs/2007/06/report -marijuana-use-linked-with-violence

[radiogaga]

well the government need to be seen to be doing something.

[4getmenot]

Yes they asked can cannabis lead to murder. Yes these are people that smoked cannabis. But compared to the beating people get from drunk partners and stabblings outside clubs where people have been drinking its nothing. There are more deaths a year from drinking alcohol than smoking weed, partly due to the fact you cant overdose on weed. I don�t personally smoke weed but I would rather spend my time with people chillingly smoking weed that drunken louts vandalising and spewing on the street. We can have our opinion and you cant change that. You don�t need to get on our backs, if you ask a question expect there to be answers that don�t always agree with you.

[Goodsoulette]

well seeing as those sorts of things are happening every hour of every day with no previous underlying mental health condition then yes it should be a hanging offence to be caught with cannabis on you.

We have, in the sleepy town of Taunton, had a recent bout of violence of a weekend. Stabbings, people getting absolutely pummeled and losing their eyesight at the taxi rank and stuff... hmmmmm..... and this is happening every week. What is the cause? Do we think its cannabis?

[4getmenot]

if you read the links that you posted like I just have you'll realise they were asking if it effects people and there were many different views on there, didnt prove anything.

[Loosehead]

Can we stop talking about alcohol, this is a discussion about lovely fluffy, harmless, good for you, all purpose, healing the sick, happy drug, Cannibis, the miracle cure for all societies ills, not that nasty booze, that's another discussion why is it that dope heads cannot defend their habit without changing the subject?

I'm more than happy to have disagreement, this is a debate after all. Whatever gives you the idea that I'm not?

[Loosehead]

"The 20-year-old was a heavy skunk smoker when he stabbed Steven Bayliss and Nuttawut Nadauld to death with a hunting knife."

So are we saying the BBC are telling porkies then?