Why is it ok for a black person to be racist ?

[Neilzulu1]

But a white person would be hung out to dry by the pc brigade. Please read link below.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/a7539 6/sir-trev-cleared-over-manning-joke.html

[NJOK]

What's it like being you?

[dmj]

I agree its not acceptable, but I get the feeling beacause it was SIR Trevor McDonald who made the comment Ofcom turned a proverbial "blind eye". Admittedly Sir Trev claimed he was copying Bernard Mannings style, but I feel for the comics family, he had only been dead for a few days and the comment was unecessary and cruel.

[Neilzulu1]

NJOK
Tue 11/09/07
11:06


What's it like being you?

What are you on about ?

[China Doll]

It's cause they are black... innit.

Booyakashah.



(Or something like that).

[Neilzulu1]

Lol, quality China.

[jake-the-peg]

Wasn't this done to death yesterday?

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question45 4045.html

[confused79]

To me its no different to a white person saying it about a black person, but no one seems to treat it the same and i think its totally wrong, ive heard kids calling other kids 'white b1tches' teachers dont treat it as racist but it is, its still discriminating against other races.
The PC bridgade or whatever you call it dont seem to include white comments and why is love to know.

[Neilzulu1]

Sorry Jake i did not see that post. Feel free to report it and have it removed if you want m8.

[ELVIS68]

The whole thing stinks of one rule for them

I doubt BM would have been too bothered about Sir Trevors comment

After all ....Sir Trevor is only ITVs modern day slave...he`s only used for his colour not talent

[jake-the-peg]

It's OK because it was a retaliation.

If he'd said it about someone with no reputation for racism, say Rowan Atkinson it wouldn't have been acceptable or funny.

Seems pretty straight forward if you dish it out you've got to be able to take it.

I must admit though Manning would be well able to take it and would be laughing his socks off at all the people running to defend him

[NJOK]

Ricky Gervais
Alan Patridge
Larry David
Little Britain

They're all white and they all make jokes based about other races and I can't remember seeing any of them hung out to dry by the PC brigade.

But maybe I'm wrong? Do you have a link?

[Neilzulu1]

I am not trying to turn this into a them vs us scenario NJOK .

[NJOK]

I know, mate.

Just pointing out the error you made here:

"a white person would be hung out to dry by the pc brigade"

By using these examples here:

Ricky Gervais
Alan Patridge
Larry David
Little Britain

[jake-the-peg]

I also think racist and sexist jokes are OK but only if they're original and very very funny.

Mildly amusing just doesn't cut it.

And crude stereotypes like Manning used to tell are just rubbish.

Things like

"What's the difference between an Iraqi woman and a pilchard?" - "One's oily and greasy with f*****g bulging eyes, and the other's a fish. "

What a loss eh?

[sp1814]

Neilzulu1

Read the story again.

You're not comparing like with like.

Also, what about:

Ricky Gervais
Alan Patridge
Larry David
Little Britain

as NJOK said ealier. The reason why the 'PC brigade' doesn't jump all over them, but would if it were filth like Bernard Manning is because of context.

Look at the context of what Sir Trev said, then you'll see the difference.

[tigerlily11]

We tell jokes about the Irish. The Russians tell jokes about the Polish, the french apparently tell jokes about the English (never heard one myself).
I suspect every where in the world every one has jokes to tell about their naigbouring countries.
I can't see why everyone makes such a big deal about it.

[sp1814]

Did you see the scene in Extras where Keith Chegwin said that black people weren't funny and challenged Ricky Gervais to name a funny British black man?

He was in a dressing room at the time, and the camera pans around to reveal a poster of Lenny Henry. Gervais winces and falls silent.

People who proffer this 'The blacks can get away with anything' line always seem to forget that modern comedy is as blatantly un-PC as it always was, but it's just more inclusive and...frankly...better than the one-dimensional rubbish that spewed forth from certain individuals in the 70s.

[Neilzulu1]

I am not after an argument here actually. Just a post to see what others thought.

[sp1814]

tigerlily

Are you a member of any minority?

[Goodsoulette]

I thought it was funny. I don't know how anyone cant see it was him parodying Manning's style of humour. I think it was taken well out of context by anyone who complained.