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With about 2 million refugees expected to arrive here, due to the state of emergency in Pakistan, will there be enough housing and jobs for them all?
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What about schools and hospitals which are already buckling under the strain?
Public hospitals aren't 'buckling under the strain' - they're just administered ineffectively. Plus schools are rather variable depending on location. There is an annoying media tendency to portray public services as in crisis or on the verge of total collapse but they're not really much worse than they have been (which isn't exactly great, to be fair, but I'd sooner have them there than not).
Public hospitals aren't 'buckling under the strain' - they're just administered ineffectively. Plus schools are rather variable depending on location. There is an annoying media tendency to portray public services as in crisis or on the verge of total collapse but they're not really much worse than they have been (which isn't exactly great, to be fair, but I'd sooner have them there than not).
Once again we see them on this site "Fiddling While England Burns"
But it's true. Notice Gerry Robinson's actions in one hospital in which he slashed waiting times by doing nothing except reforming management on the ground. A glance through one of Simon Jenkins' books will also give a good (if rather exhaustive) account of the effects of over-centralisation on the health service.
But it's true. Notice Gerry Robinson's actions in one hospital in which he slashed waiting times by doing nothing except reforming management on the ground. A glance through one of Simon Jenkins' books will also give a good (if rather exhaustive) account of the effects of over-centralisation on the health service.
Krom, we know that mismanagement is the reason for the state of our hospitals, but more patients won't help the situation.
They won't hinder it either. Although it does add a bit, I really don't accept this odd view that immigration is causing a tsunami of people to crash down on our feeble services. Particularly not when considered at a national level.
They won't hinder it either. Although it does add a bit, I really don't accept this odd view that immigration is causing a tsunami of people to crash down on our feeble services. Particularly not when considered at a national level.
Krom....odd view ? You should try working in a certain Government department like I did to see what effect an increase in immigration has on service. Cannot cope so people are put in positions with little training so they can make a bigger mess than existed before....trust me. Been there, done that.......and got out quickly whilst I was still sane!! Ever known an employer ( least of all Govt ) to give all staff an extra 3days leave because of the strain they had to take to keep up appearances!
I think we are worrying unduly here.
As has already been said, there is a surplus of greenbelt land that will be suitable for housing and schools.
A few tweaks here and there, will bring health and transport services up to scratch.
It is excellent news for our ever expanding economy, which will provide jobs and wealth for us all.
Some people may resent this, but in todays fast changing world, we must accept change for the good of our country, and not fill our minds with racist thoughts.
As has already been said, there is a surplus of greenbelt land that will be suitable for housing and schools.
A few tweaks here and there, will bring health and transport services up to scratch.
It is excellent news for our ever expanding economy, which will provide jobs and wealth for us all.
Some people may resent this, but in todays fast changing world, we must accept change for the good of our country, and not fill our minds with racist thoughts.
Look - as I've demonstrated above, the problem is due to management. If what you're saying true regarding immigrants, then none of Robinson's measures, for instance, would have worked (because even the best management couldn't cope with what your describing - but did in practice). I'm not denying that an extra influx does place extra strein on a health service, but it's hardly an enormous difference. If you were theoretically to remove all immigrant use of the health service - the strein on it would in practice be only ever so slightly reduced (and would solve none of the problems with it). And when you take the figures at a national level (i.e. bear in mind what that'll mean for individual hospitals on the ground), it doesn't amount to much.
With the right kind of changes (as Robinson demonstrated quite clearly), the NHS would be able to cope with demand quite effectively, irrespective of extra numbers.
With the right kind of changes (as Robinson demonstrated quite clearly), the NHS would be able to cope with demand quite effectively, irrespective of extra numbers.
