Do we think more of animals?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....e-test-dog-owner.html

They say the British care more for animals than they do for humans.

How true this appears to be, the Government wants to introduce competence test to see if owners are fit to keep a dog,

Much better for a competence test to see if some humans were fit to have children.
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Third-party insurance in case their pet attacks someone.

Sounds like a good idea in for children, in case some kids commit criminal damage.
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One is charged with animal cruelty if one allows their animals to suffer unnecessary, and one doesn't have the animal put down humanely.

Yet we allow terminally ill humans to suffer.
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Please don't read more into this than necessary, just thought it thought provoking enough to be kicked around, for comments..

[123everton]

These are some interesting points AOG, viewed simply it makes no sense.
Life isn't that simple, insurance for dogs is a wise precaution, but wholly unenforceable, legal parental responsibility, seems like a wise precaution, but it creates a problem for those who have children who just won't behave. They may have other kids who are no trouble at all, do they all suffer, ask yourself, what would it take for you to disown your own child as a child to avoid prison?
The terminally ill, it's just not that simple, you have many people who are worth more dead than alive, all sickly and coughing, as soon as they croak they can take the family to Disney land.
The trouble is with it, is that if people make you feel like a burden then you may feel like a burden, I'll finish with one old story, from your generation.
An American airman lay in hospital dying and in great pain, covered from head to toe in burns all the medics could do was give him morphine and wait. A nurse heartbroken by the sight of this man's condition and painful groans, asked the Dr. if it would not be better to give him an overdose and put him out of misery? The Dr. replied that they couldn't and it wasn't their place too.
Te next morning she opened the curtains on the ward, and turned to see him awake "good morning" she said, he looked around the room and said "sunshine, flowers, it's good to be alive."
He died that afternoon...

[Oneeyedvic]

You do have to undergo tests to see if you are a fit parent if you want to adopt or foster. Without compulsory sterilisation, there is no way of forcing people to undergo parental tests - HOWEVER, I do believe that parenting classes should be made compulsory at school and of possible later on as well (this could be tied in with child support - compulsion to attend a course)

Regarding insurance - not really though about it, but I think that this could be a good idea - not sure how this could be enforced though.

I am a complete supporter of Euthanasia.

[123everton]

I think AOg is a supporter of euthanasia, just so long as they stay in Asia! ;-))

[anotheoldgit]

That story of the airman was very thought provoking indeed.

Regarding the legal parental responsibility, I did not mean that the parents could go to jail for the actions of their offspring's.

What I meant, that all parents take out insurance against their children committing acts of vandalism and damage to property. It would then be down to the vitimn to claim for any loss etc, from the insurance company.

[anotheoldgit]

123everton

Why do you have to spoil yourself with cheap jibes at AOG?

[123everton]

An interesting idea, I feel many would be resistant because of compulsion, if you have good no-claims you'll get cheap insurance, if you don't, you won't, if you can't afford it what then?
If you can afford it, does that give someone carte blanche to wreck things?
An intersting idea, trouble is it involves people, they're bound to ruin it.

[Snafu03]

'If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.' - Mark Twain.

[NoMercy]

Living in a country like Spain where animal neglect is rife, I can tell you that animals are not given more consideration than humans. In the last couple of days, I have seen several dead animals on the roadside - I'm talking puppies just weeks old and miles from anywhere, that have obviously been thrown out of cars.

I have a rescue dog who was close to death when he was rescued 4 years ago. I cannot tell you how loving and loyal he is. In my opinion, there is not enough done to stop animal cruelty. Recently, there was a case in the paper here about a dog who'd just had a litter of puppies. She was hanged from a tree by her owners, whilst one of her terrified puppies (who thankfully managed to escape) looked on. The poor dog's back legs were touching the floor and so she struggled to free herself and ended up dying a slow and horrific death. The Guardia took a photo of the badly decomposed dog still hanging by its lead, and allowed the paper to publish it. If you think humans have ever played second fiddle to animals, you're very wrong.

[rov1200]

Getting them to pick up their poop might be a start.

[anotheoldgit]

NoMercy I said the British, not the Spanish, they who seem to get a delight out of torturing a bull, before they finally kill it.

All to the delight of the baying crowd.