Freedom of protest

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...st-yorkshire-11124524

Can anyone please explain why, if any indigenous group wants to stage a protest against the rise of Islam in this country, they are automatically called a 'Racist, Far Right Wing' group?

Are not the indigenous people of this country allowed to have their say, or even allowed to march through one of the cities of our country, that has more or less been taken over by peoples who are not native of this country?

Yet peoples of the Islam religion are allow to freely protest outside Mosques, calling for the murder of Jews etc and even allowed to abuse our troops on their return from war.

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

I saw it called a right-wing group in that article, not a racist far-right one.
It's the truth, they are.
The MDL were there as well, but they are a tiny group so don't get a mention like the UAF does.
The EDL and MDL should be shunted to an island to get on with it in my opinion and leave the rest of us to just get on with living.

[123everton]

AOG, can you be Muslim and British?
Is there no such thing as an indigenous Muslim?
If the answers to the above are no, then could you define what an "indigenous" Brit is?

[anotheoldgit]

Mojo-jo-jo

Perhaps it does not say so in the article, but they have been described as 'racist' on numerous occasions, but how they can be, when Islam is a religion not a race.

I don't know whether or not you are English, but how else can we protest at the dilution of the English nation, if we are not to be labelled 'Right-Wing' or 'Racist'?

[123everton]

I'm English and by definition British.
Thirty years ago the same questions were being asked of black people, you still haven't answered the questions though AOG.

[anotheoldgit]

123everton

In answer to your question 'can you be Muslim and British'.

Yes undoubtedly, but we are not talking 'British' in this instance we are talking 'English'. i.e. (English Defence League)

But since the wide majority of Muslims in this country are either Pakistani or of Pakistani descent, they are not part of the native inhabitants of England..

[mollykins]

This country gets more and more rediculous every day.

Do you think when the British, white person becomes a minority we'll be able to protest etc then?

[sandyRoe]

Fie, Molly, Fie! That will never happen

[anotheoldgit]

123everton

/// Thirty years ago the same questions were being asked of black people ///

What are you saying?

What questions were being asked?

What has colour got to do with it?

[mollykins]

Sandy, I reckon it will, one day. Most of us will have emmigrated or had children with people from other races meaning there won't be many white people left.

[sp1814]

"Are not the indigenous people of this country allowed to have their say"

followed by:

"What has colour got to do with it?"

Ummm...?

[anotheoldgit]

sandyRoe

One can be so dangerously apathetic.

How can you positivity say that "That will never happen" have you any definite proof?

If one looks at the present birth rate amongst the 'non-whites' of this country, compared to those born to all 'white parents', the answer is that 'whites' in the future, will obviously become the minority, it is common sense.

[mollykins]

So do you think they'll be allowed to protest in the future aog?

[Coobeastie]

"Yet peoples of the Islam religion are allow to freely protest outside Mosques"

They were still permitted to have a static protest so what's the difference? The only thing they were stopped from doing was marching due to previous problems with rioting.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

You are getting more and more colour conscious.

Indigenous people of this country, = 'White English' (European).

Not 'White Polish' not 'White Eastern European' not even 'White Scottish'.

It was 123everton that introduced the colour 'Black'.

The indigenous population of England are White, this is a fact, and is not in anyway a slight towards Black people.

[askyourgran]

AOG can I ask what are your feelings on the white immigrant (gipsy) population from Hungary, Romania Croatia etc. We have organised gangs of these people stealing and causing trouble near where I live. Yet no-one seems to have any gripe with these immigrants.

[anotheoldgit]

mollykins

As the present majority we are seemingly not allowed to protest on certain sensetive matters now.

When we are the minority, we will have no chance, on any matter.

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

They did protest. Nobody stopped them protesting.
They just didn't march.

[Coobeastie]

Indigenous people of this country, = 'White English' (European).

Not 'White Polish' not 'White Eastern European' not even 'White Scottish'.

Oh you've got to be kidding now.

Why the exclusion of the Scots?

"As the present majority we are seemingly not allowed to protest on certain sensetive matters now"

No...a minority wanted to protest and there were allowed to do so.

[anotheoldgit]

Coobeastie

The answer lies in these 2 words 'freely protest'

The Muslim protests outside the mosques etc.were allowed without the huge intimidating police presence.

If the EDL had been allowed to march through the streets, who would it had been who started the rioting? yes the Muslims.

But then of course we could not have an equal huge police presence to keep them in check could we?

No, they would not stand for it, calls would go up for racial intimidation etc,etc.

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

Your last answer paints a very very broad brush aog.
How can you be sure the muslims would have started it?
I watched a documentary about the EDL and last time they didn't get to do a bit of fighting with brown people, they fought among themselves instead