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http://www.bbc.co.uk/...st-yorkshire-11124524
Can anyone please explain why, if any indigenous group wants to stage a protest against the rise of Islam in this country, they are automatically called a 'Racist, Far Right Wing' group?
Are not the indigenous people of this country allowed to have their say, or even allowed to march through one of the cities of our country, that has more or less been taken over by peoples who are not native of this country?
Yet peoples of the Islam religion are allow to freely protest outside Mosques, calling for the murder of Jews etc and even allowed to abuse our troops on their return from war.
Can anyone please explain why, if any indigenous group wants to stage a protest against the rise of Islam in this country, they are automatically called a 'Racist, Far Right Wing' group?
Are not the indigenous people of this country allowed to have their say, or even allowed to march through one of the cities of our country, that has more or less been taken over by peoples who are not native of this country?
Yet peoples of the Islam religion are allow to freely protest outside Mosques, calling for the murder of Jews etc and even allowed to abuse our troops on their return from war.
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askyourgran (it is such a long time since I did)
You ask what are my feelings on the white immigrant (gipsy) population from Hungary, Romania Croatia etc.?
Well since these are not a direct threat to the very culture of the indigenous English, I see no particular problem.
But it seems that you and your fellow residents have a problem with these immigrant's, alleged stealing and anti-social behaviour, but surely this becomes a local police matter, as it would be no matter what race they belonged to.
You ask what are my feelings on the white immigrant (gipsy) population from Hungary, Romania Croatia etc.?
Well since these are not a direct threat to the very culture of the indigenous English, I see no particular problem.
But it seems that you and your fellow residents have a problem with these immigrant's, alleged stealing and anti-social behaviour, but surely this becomes a local police matter, as it would be no matter what race they belonged to.
Large scale protests usually have a police presence and a measure of control.
"If the EDL had been allowed to march through the streets, who would it had been who started the rioting? yes the Muslims"
Well seeing as they couldn't even be trusted to hold a static protest without throwing missiles at the police I'd have a pretty good stab at suggesting that they might be the cause of some of the problems.
"If the EDL had been allowed to march through the streets, who would it had been who started the rioting? yes the Muslims"
Well seeing as they couldn't even be trusted to hold a static protest without throwing missiles at the police I'd have a pretty good stab at suggesting that they might be the cause of some of the problems.
They're not free to call for the murder of anyone, the last time they did (presuming you mean the radical fundamentalists) the police rounded them up a few weeks later.
Thirty years ago Viv Anderson playing for England was a big deal, nobody (but an idiot) would question whether Ashley Cole or Emile Heskey are English enough.
Thirty years ago Viv Anderson playing for England was a big deal, nobody (but an idiot) would question whether Ashley Cole or Emile Heskey are English enough.
"But since the wide majority of Muslims in this country are either Pakistani or of Pakistani descent, they are not part of the native inhabitants of England." AOG
"Just under half (46 per cent) of Muslims living in Great Britain in 2001 had been born in the UK, while 39 per cent had been born in Asia – mainly Pakistan (18 per cent), Bangladesh (9 per cent) and India (3 per cent)." The Office of National Statistics
“National identity is strongly related to country of birth. People from all religious groups who were born in the UK were more likely than their foreign-born counterparts to give a British identity. Almost all (99 per cent) UK-born Jews, Christians and people with no religion had a British national identity. Nine out of ten UK-born Buddhists (93 per cent), Sikhs (93 per cent), Muslims (91 per cent) and Hindus (89 per cent) gave a British national identity. “ The Office of National Statistics
Any comments AOG?
"Just under half (46 per cent) of Muslims living in Great Britain in 2001 had been born in the UK, while 39 per cent had been born in Asia – mainly Pakistan (18 per cent), Bangladesh (9 per cent) and India (3 per cent)." The Office of National Statistics
“National identity is strongly related to country of birth. People from all religious groups who were born in the UK were more likely than their foreign-born counterparts to give a British identity. Almost all (99 per cent) UK-born Jews, Christians and people with no religion had a British national identity. Nine out of ten UK-born Buddhists (93 per cent), Sikhs (93 per cent), Muslims (91 per cent) and Hindus (89 per cent) gave a British national identity. “ The Office of National Statistics
Any comments AOG?
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Have a look at the anarchists and republicans of the late 19th and early 20th century, not a God to be seen amongst them.
The fundamentalists are opposed to our foreign policies, that result in the death and oppression of innocent people abroad.
Look at the G20 protests (thankfully it wasn't a Muslim event otherwise we'd never have heard the end of it), look at the level of protection afforded to politicians nowadays, it's there to protect our representitives from us as much as any foreign threat.
So just what is it our leaders are doing to cause such dischord in the world?
We're rearming Iraq with tanks, to fight who?
We're arming Georgia, to fight who?
We're supporting an independent Kosovo* as legal and legitimate entity, but, denying Nagorno-Karabakh, South Ossetia and Abkharzia, with regard to the latter we even allow our governments to lie about the nature of their seccation and the attempts by Georgia to regain it, there's even a film out to reinforce this fantasy.
I haven't even mentioned the middle east yet.
It's this duplicitous hypocrisy of our foreign policies that cause the problems.
* Just hope that Albania doesn't elect a right wing nationalist government that decides it wants to unite the Albanian peoples of the Occident, an event that would concern Montenegro and Macedonia, and consequently Bulgaria, Greece, neither of whom recognise Macedonia, and also Serbia, which still covets Macedonia.
Such a movement would fund groups in the borders to achieve this aim, the result?
The Fifth Balkan War, or sixth if you're from around there.
The fundamentalists are opposed to our foreign policies, that result in the death and oppression of innocent people abroad.
Look at the G20 protests (thankfully it wasn't a Muslim event otherwise we'd never have heard the end of it), look at the level of protection afforded to politicians nowadays, it's there to protect our representitives from us as much as any foreign threat.
So just what is it our leaders are doing to cause such dischord in the world?
We're rearming Iraq with tanks, to fight who?
We're arming Georgia, to fight who?
We're supporting an independent Kosovo* as legal and legitimate entity, but, denying Nagorno-Karabakh, South Ossetia and Abkharzia, with regard to the latter we even allow our governments to lie about the nature of their seccation and the attempts by Georgia to regain it, there's even a film out to reinforce this fantasy.
I haven't even mentioned the middle east yet.
It's this duplicitous hypocrisy of our foreign policies that cause the problems.
* Just hope that Albania doesn't elect a right wing nationalist government that decides it wants to unite the Albanian peoples of the Occident, an event that would concern Montenegro and Macedonia, and consequently Bulgaria, Greece, neither of whom recognise Macedonia, and also Serbia, which still covets Macedonia.
Such a movement would fund groups in the borders to achieve this aim, the result?
The Fifth Balkan War, or sixth if you're from around there.
