Prince Harry

[fourteen85]

There has been talk in the press lately about him having lied on his visa form to gain entry to the USA, could he be stopped from re entering after the coronation?

[naomi24]

His stupidity was in denying he knew her. He should have said ‘yes, I knew her and yes, we had sex on three separate occasions.’

I suspect that would have been the end of the story.

[retrocop]

Nell Gwyn was 17 years of age when became an actress and mistress of Charles 11. She described herself as a 'protestant ***' so that was OK. If she admitted to be a 'Catholic ***' the mob would have ,no doubt, caused her great harm.
https://www.factinate.com/people/facts-nell-gwyn/

[fitdarren]

I agree that Andy was within his rights to sleep with her, IF she was OK with it, but where his morals failed him was in paying her off after saying he did nothing wrong - that made a lot of people suspicious of him, me included. And I don't believe for one second that he remembered he was in a pizza place at the time of said incident, I believe he lied through his teeth about that. His sheer arrogance shines through and I believe ah's assessment of the type of man he is and totally agree with him.

[MissTerious2]

Very true Naomi.

/I'm saying I find it odd that you have suddenly discovered it's a strange world and that you seriously can't believe that a royal has been defended for using prostitutes on this site./

I find that odd too!

[retrocop]

Good grief
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another name for prostitute and rhymes with 'door'. Jeeeeeezuz. It was the language and description of the 1600s

[Zacs-Master]

‘Epstein wasn’t a convicted paedophile at that time’

He was still a paedo. Are you saying it was ok because he wasn’t convicted?

[Zacs-Master]

‘ I'm saying I find it odd that you have suddenly discovered it's a strange world and that you seriously can't believe that a royal has been defended for using prostitutes on this site’

I know, I know. Standard I suppose, Retro.

[MissTerious2]

He should never have done that interview which did make him look stupid. Whoever he took advice from must have been stupid. But that doesn't make him a dreadful person.

[andy-hughes]

MissT - // /If PA was sure he did 'nothing wrong' - why did he not go to court and face his accuser, instead of paying her off to avoid it./

To avoid any more publicity and because he could afford it. As anyone else would do in that position! //

Not 'anyone' - just one who was pretty sure he would lose his case in court.

And one who considered that the loss of a large sum of money which he did not have to find, and the lifelong loss of what remained of a seriously damaged reputation, was worth more than standing up in court and proving he had not done anything wrong.

Going to court and clearing his name, sure that right, legal and moral, were on his side, and that he could hold his head high and emerge with his reputation unstained - THAT is what 'anyone', with a shred of moral fibre and character, would actually do.

[douglas9401]

Just popped in for a minute and have a couple of points.

Isn't this supposed to be about Harry and were Exodus missiles used when the Argentinians ran out of Exocets?

[MissTerious2]

What Naomi is saying is that Epstein wasnt a known Paedo. Did Andrew know? I doubt it.

[andy-hughes]

MissT - // He should never have done that interview which did make him look stupid. Whoever he took advice from must have been stupid. But that doesn't make him a dreadful person. //

It doesn't - but it was the final complete piece of evidence that the world has known for a long time - that he is fundamentally stupid, arrogant, thoughtless, and utterly unaware of the feelings of anyone else around him.

It was not the interview that 'made him a dreadful person' - his entire life and behaviour, military service excluded - has done that comprehensively for him.

[naomi24]

His mistake was in lying. He should have told the truth. It’s that simple.

[elliemay1]

I thought it funny when in the interview, he referred a few times to Sarah as the Duchess instead of using her name, sounded really silly

[Peter Pedant]

Yeah I agree with Naomi
Hazza should have checked Epstein's underpants

[Zacs-Master]

‘ What Naomi is saying is that Epstein wasnt a known Paedo’

I know. But it does illustrate the kind of people a prince of the realm was mixing with.

[MissTerious2]

Well in my eyes he's not a dreadful person Andy and I don't know of anything dreadful he has done. You may not like him but that doesn't make him dreadful. And I do feel sorry for him. His stupid mistakes have ruined his life, but hopefully not his relationships with his close family. And I'm glad he's still in favour with Fergie.

[Zacs-Master]

‘ I don't know of anything dreadful he has done’

At the risk of repeating myself, and putting it a slightly different way, he allegedly solicited and used a 17 year old prostitute, procured through people who trafficked underage girls and one of who was later discovered to be a paedophile.

[naomi24]

Can’t say I’ve ever read that he ‘solicited’ her.

[MissTerious2]

The fact is Zac we don't usually hear about other current Royals inappropriate behaviour in their single days. ;0)

Nobody would have known about Andy if it hadn't been for some media seeking money grabbing nasty female some 20 years after the event. I might have shocked you but at least I'm a better person than she is and have more morals. ;0)