Noah's Ark

[mikey4444]

There is an interesting discussion on Noah's Ark in today Guardian. As an educated person and a rationalist, I can't see how the Ark could possibly have been big enough to get one animal of each species on board, let alone two. Presumably dionsaurs would also have been included.

Are there any Christian ABer's, preferably British ones, not Americans, that can help explain it please ? No cut and pasting from the Bible please...just facts will do !

[modeller]

mikey This site covers most of the claims made by the bible.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_flood

[mikey4444]

Very informative modeller...thanks !

[RATTER15]

Mikey "ratter15... ???????????????? How can anything have existed BEFORE the world was created ?"

Please not ask rational questions when discussing the contents of the Bible :-)

[mikey4444]

Thanks everybody for all your contributions, but I was hoping someone who is a real believer in the flood story would come forward and explain why their belief.

[modeller]

Now there is a couple of small questions I would like answering about the animals . Each animal requires many times its body weight in food and water over a period of a year, but just as important what goes in must also come out.
If a small animal, say a small deer, produces 100 tons of manure over the period the ark floated before the animals were released , about a year. Think how much would be produced by several hundred thousand animals. So poor old Noah's family of 6 would have spent rather a long time shovelling.
London zoo employs hundreds people to look after its limited number of animals, so how did Noah's 6 care for thousands . They couldn't have done it for a single day.

[Uriah Heep]

Let's open another can of worms. Assume that Noah his wife three sons and their wives were the only survivors of a global flood. How many years would it be before the world's population became roughly what it is today?

[sandyRoe]

It didn't innundate the entire world, only the world that Noah knew. A few sheep, camels, and goats would have been enough livestock for him and his family to restart their farming life after the waters subsided. His Ark would easily have been big enough to carry them.

[douglas9401]

So, if it was a localised flood what was at the margins to contain the water so that it rose enough to deposit the ark on a mountain top or even mountain side?

Big sigh.

[sandyRoe]

Have there not been pictures posted on the net showing sizeable ships left high and dry after being deposited by tidal waves?

[mikey4444]

Uriah Heep...that's not the only problem...think of the genetic problems associated with all that inbreeding ! It would be like Norfolk, all over the world !

[sandyRoe]

Mikey4444, how do you know that it isn't? Imagine the brainy world we might have with a wider gene base.

[douglas9401]

Truly a mountainous wave sandyRoe?

[Uriah Heep]

Not really a problem mikey4444 if you believe it all started with Adam & Eve. I once read a book called the Genesis Flood by (Morris and Whitcombe I think). It made a very sound case for a global flood. Oh so much to debate!

[sandyRoe]

The Ark settling on top of a mountain doesn't necessarily mean it grounded on top of one nearly as high as Everest.

[douglas9401]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Ararat

[RATTER15]

Sandy "It didn't innundate the entire world, only the world that Noah knew"
But didnt God tell Noah to build the ark as he was going to flood the world?
So to save Noah 100+ years building the ark, all he had to do was tell Noah to build a boat big enough to leave that area?

Maybe i have it wrong

[sandyRoe]

If God had said to Noah,'I'm going to flood your world', rather than, 'I'm going to flood the entire world', Noah would just have mover his family and livestock to higher ground. Not to the top of a mountain necessarily.

[douglas9401]

Indeed, just outside the coffer dam of wonder would have been far enough. :P

[mibn2cweus]

The difference between 'believe' and 'know' is the word in the middle . . . one is a process of elimination of the other.

[jim360]

So waht you're saying Canary is that God is a Timelord? Maybe that's why David Tennant can do no wrong!