Am I Being Conned ?

[modeller]

I have read an increasing number of articles and been given books that purport to be secular but are in fact IMO a backdoor method of evangelising.

I have noticed this with politicians who , in this country kept their personal beliefs private, now ' come out ' .

[naomi24]

Khandro, they’re not ‘obligations’ – they’re choices.

[modeller]

goodlife //........the incoming Kingdom of God, which is drawing ever closer. //

Would that be coincidental with Armageddon ? You have been prophesying
the latter at various dates for over the last 100 years. Well you have finally got it right //............which is drawing ever closer. //.
Working from 14 billion years ( the age of the universe), or 4 billion years ( the age of the Earth ) or 6000 years ( according to certain Theists ). Yep ! Which ever is your start date , the end date is certainly Getting Closer.

[Khandro]

beso; //Ramadan is an extremely unhealthy thing to do to one's body. The believers mistake the body's reaction to stress as some kind of religious experience.//
I strongly advise you to avoid it then.

[Khandro]

Naomi; Not if you are devout, and certainly not if you're a Benedictine monk. To say otherwise would be like saying I want to drive a car, but I don't want to obey the rules of the road.
By the way, if you are feeling left out, why not try;
www.spectator.co.uk/features/914372/so-tell-me-about-your-faith

[naomi24]

Khandro, that’s a daft argument. People aren’t under an obligation to become Benedictine monks any more than they are under an obligation to drive cars. They have a choice.

Your link doesn’t work, but I presume this is what you intended to post.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9141372/so-tell-me-about-your-faith-journey-sunday-morning-at-the-atheist-church/

If so, the idea of an atheist church is just as irrational as your idea of ‘obligation’.

By the way, I never feel left out - but perhaps that's because I'm a leader rather than a follower. ;o)

[Khandro]

// I'm a leader rather than a follower.//
Quo Vadis ? ;-)

[naomi24]

Ah, Khandro ..... how very enigmatic. ;o)

[goodlife]

You know a study of time in the Bible to the expression year ,is can be A day for a year, a day for a year,( Ezek. 4:6)

And a Year, of the Ancient peoples, including the learned Greeks, the Romans, and the Jews, had no concept of zero. To them, everything began counting from one.

If you studied Roman numerals in school (I, II, III, IV, V, X, etc.), did you learn a figure for zero? No, because the Romans had none. Since the Romans did not use the number zero, the Common Era began, not with a zero year, but with 1 C.E. This also gave rise to the ordinal arrangement of numbers, such as first (1st), second (2nd), third (3rd), tenth (10th), and hundredth (100th). In modern mathematics, man conceives of everything as starting from nothing, or zero.

The zero was probably invented by the Hindus.

So viewing the stream of time from our present human standpoint and taking into account God’s promise of the incoming Kingdom of God,

My joy is in the prospect that a blessings of that day: “For there Jehovah commanded the blessing to be, even life to time indefinite”!—Ps. 133:3.

So keep learning modeller.

[modeller]

goodlife Are you agreeing then that //.......the incoming Kingdom of God, which is drawing ever closer. // is meaningless.?

[modeller]

naomi //If so, the idea of an atheist church is just as irrational as your idea of ‘obligation’. // I agree ! I was about to post something similar . The depth of ones agreement or disagreement is difficult too express in a post.

[Khandro]

modeller; You read the above link then. What I find hilarious is that their 'religion' just like most other real religions, already has its own schism; those who have 'no belief in God' and those whom 'believe in no God'.
How long before each have their own popes and archbishops?

[goodlife]

Nope.

[naomi24]

Khandro, who are //those who have 'no belief in God'//?

[Peter Pedant]

anne widdicomne will come out with a 'cilice' and show she is really a man-monk

yeah I think you're right