What Is The Point Of Existance ?

[modeller]

Only we humans think we are special, and we have only existed for a few hundred thousand years.
All other organisms have an unaware finite existence.
Even the Universe has a finite existence. So what's the point ?

[Mamyalynne]

You know it when it happens to you, searching for it is not always the way.

[naomi24]

idiosyncrasy, //The well-known Greek Philosopher Aristotle, believed that everything happens for a reason, always. //

He believed it, you believe it.... but that doesn't make it so. Why do you need to believe what other men tell you? What do they 'know' that you don't?

[goodlife]

What, then, is the purpose of life? Put simply, it is this: We are here to do God’s will. There is no better way to fill your life with meaning. (Ecclesiastes 12:13)

What do you conclude, Well, what about the conclusion that Solomon reached? He saw, and examined, “all the works that were done under the sun, and, look! everything was vanity and a striving after wind.” (Ecclesiastes 1:14) We do not find in the book of Ecclesiastes the words of a cynic or a disgruntled man. They are part of God’s inspired Word and worthy of all our consideration.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, //We are here to do God’s will. //

I'm not. He was horrible.

[RobNorth]

Only the white mice know.....

[cassa333]

As an atheist who has had a once in a life time absolute and perfectly (at the time) uplifting religious experience (that could no doubt convert some) I say that if my experience is a true reflection of God then it is a ***. An egomaniac of the highest order that wants the subjugation of the entire planet to fawn and grovel at its feet.

Why does it want that? Why does it need that? If the slavery it offers is what is on offer then I decline and will just die and be forgotten.

[goodlife]

Naomi/ Did you not know Jehovah is not swayed by you, or your outward appearance. He is completely free from bias.

You account for the unjust suffering and the corrupt practices that are all too common in today’s world?’ Such inequities in no way impugn Jehovah’s justice.
No, many injustices in this wicked world are a consequence of imperfect humans have chosen their own sinful ways—but not for long.(Deuteronomy 32:5)

[HansUrbancka]

I am now becoming 'fed-up' with this thread and question the point of its existence.

Hans.

[hereIam]

nailit at 18:26 last evening - all I will say is that at a time of great distress last year, I asked my beloved deceased Dad for a message to help me through and he sent me one and it was wonderful. I have no doubt whatsoever now that something 'after' does exist ...

[melv16]

We are all a product of a sperm that was the fastest swimmer.
However, looking at some of the people in my city I sometimes doubt that:-)

[nailit]

cassa
//As an atheist who has had a once in a life time absolute and perfectly (at the time) uplifting religious experience (that could no doubt convert some) I say that if my experience is a true reflection of God then it is a ***. An egomaniac of the highest order that wants the subjugation of the entire planet to fawn and grovel at its feet//

Cassa, I believe you've said similar on another thread as well.
I don't get it. You say that you have had an uplifting religious experience and yet that makes God an egomaniac. Can you elaborate? I'd be very interested to hear about it, thanks.

[nailit]

hereIam, it seems a bit vague but thank you.

[hereIam]

It seems a bit 'vague' nailit because I don't want to disclose any more like I said, because of the scoffers. These things happen when we least expect them I think.

[nailit]

Fare enough hereIam, wouldn't let any scoffers bother you though :-)

[Peter Pedant]

// my beloved deceased Dad for a message to help me through and he sent me one //

I am very pleased to hear that you were guided to the right place
about 50% anglo-saxons hear their dead relatives speak to them.
that is why I think they were so easy to convert by st augustine

[nailit]

//about 50% anglo-saxons hear their dead relatives speak to them. //

interesting PP...got a link for that at all?

[hereIam]

He didn't speak to me PP ....

[cassa333]

Nailit,

I will try to be as succinct as possible but no gaurantee lol

I was driving home from work and out of absolutely nowhere felt, what some describe as a Devine presence. I was compelled to sing at my loudest hallelujah. I could not stop even though I could think independently outside of the song and singing and knew that it was not a normal feeling and was odd.

I 'felt' such overpowering love for God and from God that at that moment I knew, without doubt, without care that I wanted and desperately need to retain what I was feeling and be with him. If I had been told that the only way was to press 'the big red button' of extinction of the whole of humanity to be with him I would have. If I had been told that the only way was to drive my car into the brick wall in front of me and kill myself I would have.

That feeling was absolute. But I could think two opposing things simultaneously. I felt and said my adulation for God out loud at the exact same time as thinking this is not normal, what is happening.

From start to finish was only about 10 seconds but felt like a lifetime. As suddenly as it started it stopped.

That's when I knew deep down that God is a s.hit. And egotist. Although the feeling of love is overwhelming his need is just as strong. His ego makes our love slavery.

[nailit]

Don't know what to make of that Cassa, I still dont understand why a sense of overwhelming love (as seems to be the case in the majority of near death experiences for example) would make God out to be an egotist?
Maybe I'm missing something but I find your story/experience to be very, very interesting. Thank you for expanding your experience.

[agchristie]

What is the Point of Existance?

Because, as the late great Ronnie Barker stated:

'It's summat to do innit'?