Theological Questions

[Lonnie]

I would ask please, if the following questions were answered, the best that you can, in the order that they are posted. Thanks.

1) God, has always been there, before anything else, God was there, so how long was he there in solitary before he decided to create the Universe and us?

2) Why did God create us, Humans?

[naomi24]

Jim, no need to remind me never to depend upon your discretion.

[jim360]

I can't say I was ever expecting you to share anything with me that I'd need to be discreet about. As to Khandro's thing -- there was a very deliberate reason I asked, but it seems it's moot now, as I wanted to draw the mods' attention to the relevant post.

In the highly unlikely event that we ever did meet in real life, and you ever did see fit to trust me with something, then I'm actually rather reliable. But since that's not going to happen, you'll never know. Perhaps it would be better if you kept your character ill-judgements to yourself for a change.

[naomi24]

Jim, no chance. Had you wanted to draw the attention of someone who could have done something about Khandro’s error, the simplest way would have been to report it quietly – as I did. You know how this place works. As it was your thoughtlessness was likely to draw the attention of all and sundry to something that, despite my attempt to deter you, you elaborated upon. Should you and I ever meet in real life you may rest assured it will not be as a result of my design. The soul of discretion you are not.

[Mamyalynne]

It's not the first time someone has revealed a personal link, it happens more than you think.

Whether by accident or design, no harm usually comes of it.

[naomi24]

Mamyalynne, I know it happens ..... but you know that no harm usually comes of it ... how?

[Mamyalynne]

From feedback.

[Mamyalynne]

I hardly think it's fair having a pop at Jim , it was there for anyone viewing the thread - they didn't need a prompt, it was obvious.

[naomi24]

Mamyalynne, Had I inadvertently posted something I shouldn't have - and I've done it - I wouldn't want anyone here broadcasting it. That said, whilst you are, of course, at liberty to comment, your opinion is of no interest to me.

[naomi24]

ps. 'Feedback'? You organise polls?

[Mamyalynne]

No if I made a slip I wouldn't want it broadcast either , did happen to me once.


I have never broadcast anything discovered here unless the person concerned allowed it.

Lonnie - apologies for my part in the sidetrack - I shall let your thread return to topic.

[Mamyalynne]

Gosh, I know my comments don't interest you - I would never be so bold as to think that.

[naomi24]

Mamyalynne, //No if I made a slip I wouldn't want it broadcast either , //

Thank you.

[naomi24]

Mamyalynne, at 23.04. Heaven forbid that anyone should ever accuse you of being bold.

[keyplus90]

According to Quran (just like Bible) God has always been and always will be. Time, and its concept depends on our own ability and the way we have accepted it or use it in our lives.

As for your second question, again according to Quran God created human to “worship” him. But this word worship is usually taken on face value. Its not like one should just sit on an isolated island and cut him off from the world and just keep on worshipping God the way he believes. Islamic meaning of worship is that human should live the way God wants them to live, not only for themselves , but also for their neighbours, for society and for this whole humankind as well as each and everything (known or unknown to him them) should benefit from their actions.
In the end, human will never know about everything and it is a fact. We human are trying to find about other planets but we still do not know perhaps more than 50% of our own planet.

[Khandro]

Hi keyplus! I was concerned you might have left us.
Nothing has changed here, we should know that no one can be argued into a belief in God any more than anyone can be argued into happiness.
Put another way, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink".

[tamborine]

God is your conscience. It exists in your mind. Your family/community guide your thoughts & actions to live in harmony with them. An all powerful existance to further control you was named god.

[tamborine]

Good to have you back keyplus. Have you been on the haj?

[jim360]

Makes me wonder why you are so keen to share your own opinions so often when you aren't interested in anyone else's. But there you go.

And, as I say, you are simply wrong about who I am as a person outside the confines of AB. You can't know that, and you never will, but perhaps you should bear in mind the limits of your own personal experiences more often before rushing to judgement.

[FinnyMick]

Nothing has changed here, we should know that no one can be argued into a belief in God any more than anyone can be argued into happiness.


Happiness exists god doesn't.

The first answer sums things up nicely.

[FinnyMick]

That quote was from kandro of course.