Bertrand Russell

[nailit]

“There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ's moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment''

Can anyone disagree?
The idea of been tortured forever is sick beyond belief.
If there's one thing (actually there are many) that turns me off from Christianity, its this idea that unbelievers will be tortured beyond belief for not believing in the God of love.
(Anyone else here see the contradiction)??

[douglas9401]

In the very first instance, nailit, you have to give a tuppenny one so, I'm out. :-)

[Jordyboy9]

Sorry nailit all I can add is a god of love my arias,what about the cancer sufferers my wife,your mother,my niece,thousands of others god of love never.

[JF85]

Not being a Christian I don't give a flying fig, but a similar thing troubles me about Buddhism. The Dalai Lama has said that people should not seek help for a sick dog, as the illness allowing the fog to suffer for previous sins.

I have no objection to suffering if I sin but I want to be sure I did, not simply be told I must have been wicked in a different life. If I don't know why I am being punished, I can hardly claim to have learned from the experience.

[nailit]

God off love my @rse!
People here who quote the Bible have never read it.
Horrible book. Should be consigned to the dustbins of history...

[237SJ]

Why does all the God stuff bother you so much?

[nailit]

//Why does all the God stuff bother you so much?//
It doesn't!
Just find it interesting how the religious mind works...
It all says more about human psychology than about anything else!

[237SJ]

What is the point in pondering on it though? Life is too short. You should be living it, not thinking about it

[Canary42]

/// What is the point in pondering on it though? Life is too short. You should be living it, not thinking about it ///

"The unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates

[237SJ]

Nailit - by the way, how's your Mum?

[agchristie]

//You should be living it, not thinking about it//

Life is for living and we should make the most of our existence.

I do sometimes wonder, as I'm sure many others do in their more introspective moments, about the choices made in life, what I still want to do and what I could have done differently and better.

Isn't that just being human?

[douglas9401]

There may have been some alternative view developed over the intervening 25 odd centuries, Canary.

Unless you're referencing a footballer.

[nailit]

237sj
My mums pretty stable at the moment thanks for asking.

[agchristie]

I frequently contemplate my navel.

Whilst I'm at I contemplate....

Oh never mind! ;)

[237SJ]

That's good to hear, nailit

[mibn2cweus]

//Whilst I'm at I contemplate....//

The mind boggles . . .

[agchristie]

Why, what were you thinking of Mibs?!

;-)

[andy-hughes]

As most on here know, I am an atheist, but I do attend Mass most Sundays with my wife, who is Catholic.

When we arrive at church, the rosary is being said, and in it is the phrase "Save is from the fires of hell …" which always strikes me as odd - surely believers and automatically saved from anything except heaven, so why the need to plead for it every week, week in and week out?

[andy-hughes]

ag - // I frequently contemplate my navel.

Whilst I'm at I contemplate....

Oh never mind! ;) //

If your contemplation is matters physical, then surely you are restricted to contemplating what you can actually see?

I'm sure you get my drift!

[agchristie]

//so why the need to plead for it every week, week in and week out?//

To give you good luck starting a new week on Answerbank! ;-))

[237SJ]

AH why do you go to church if you are an athiest?