Origin Of Information.

[Theland]

I believe all information originates in a mind.
If you disagree with this, any examples?

[Theland]

Really? Do you never fall back on your own or others previous experiences and compare them to the present situation?
Now reverse the process.

[pixie374]

Khandro's link is supposedly about a scientist- who clearly isn't. From AB, it seems scientists are part-time at best...
Not important, just that the link posted makes no actual sense.

[pixie374]

Cool. We will recreate the world and minds and see what happens.

[THECORBYLOON]

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[pixie374]

Please carry on, theland...

[THECORBYLOON]

That was just to get the answers to appear.

[Theland]

Certainly in engineering and from what I know most sciences, to understand the past, the present is examined to recreate the same result.
Plane crashes for example?

[pixie374]

Thanks corby. They really are hanging back...xx

[pixie374]

Right, please carry on, theland. I am interested x

[Theland]

When the Comet jet crashed in the 1950's, another was put on a test bed and stressed to find out what failed.
They discovered metal fatigue around the Windows.
Is that a good example?

[pixie374]

It may be, presuming it was the same problem each time. How is this actual helpful though?

[Theland]

Experimental trials trying to reproduce something from the past are an important part of research.
Do you agree?

[pixie374]

Yes, I expect so...

[Theland]

Atheists on here dismiss scientists like Stephen C Meyer of the Discovery Institute saying he has an agenda unworthy of scrutiny.
But he is where he is because that is where the science has led him.
I have never read his books but listened to a lot,of his and others lectures on YouTube, but being on YouTube does not negate the value of the lectures.
Try them yourself.

[Theland]

https://youtu.be/Li_CR6wBfQ4

An interesting ten minutes.

[mibn2cweus]

The only thing I've found informative about that video is that some people seem to enjoy talking allot about nothing.

[beso]

Theland //Information needed for life, life needed for information. //

Incorrect. Information does not require life.

[Khandro]

beso; //Information does not require life.//
How & where does 'information' exist outside of life & consciousness?

[beso]

The structure of subatomic particles is governed by information about the components in them and relationships between those components.

For example quarks have specific masses and binding energies that govern how they interact and the mass of the hadrons they form.

This is "information" in the sense of the term as it is used in science. Without information, no relationship can be defined.

None of these pieces of information is dependent on a conscious mind. They just are what they are.

[Khandro]

Better reach for your dictionary beso;

Information.
1. Knowledge or facts learned, especially about a certain subject or event.
2. The act of informing or the condition of being informed; communication of knowledge: