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Since moving to a high rise with limited access, I no longer get the religious door knockers/God Gang trying to sell me Jesus. Pity really as I used to enjoy trying to engage them in conversation and watching them back up the path as I quoted chapter and verse back at them..
(As an ex evangelical, it NEVER leaves you)
Most of the time I actually had a desire to debate/learn/exchange ideas with them but the feeling was not mutual...they just wanted to convert people and had no interest in other points of view.
I was never one for shutting the door in the face of someone who believed that they were doing good. Much rather have a mutual conversation.
However one afternoon we had a family gathering at my mums when the JW's were doing the rounds. I was sent to the door to see them off.
I politely asked them if they could come back the following week as we were in the middle of an occultic rite and were about to sacrifice a cockerel.
They actually apologised for disturbing us (at an OAP's bungalow) and promised to return the following week
(never did return. EVER)
Strange that! They promised as well.
Any stories re God Gang Door Knockers?
(As an ex evangelical, it NEVER leaves you)
Most of the time I actually had a desire to debate/learn/exchange ideas with them but the feeling was not mutual...they just wanted to convert people and had no interest in other points of view.
I was never one for shutting the door in the face of someone who believed that they were doing good. Much rather have a mutual conversation.
However one afternoon we had a family gathering at my mums when the JW's were doing the rounds. I was sent to the door to see them off.
I politely asked them if they could come back the following week as we were in the middle of an occultic rite and were about to sacrifice a cockerel.
They actually apologised for disturbing us (at an OAP's bungalow) and promised to return the following week
(never did return. EVER)
Strange that! They promised as well.
Any stories re God Gang Door Knockers?
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Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses, Respond to All Accusations Made Against Them? Jehovah’s Witnesses follow the Bible’s advice not to respond to all accusations and instances of ridicule. For example, a Bible proverb says: “The one who corrects a ridiculer invites dishonor.” (Proverbs 9:7, 8; 26:4) Rather than being pulled into quarreling by an undue concern over false accusations, we focus on pleasing God.—Psalm 119:69.Of course, there is “a time to be silent and a time to speak.” (Ecclesiastes 3:7)
We respond to sincere people who are interested in finding out the truth, but we avoid getting into pointless arguments. We thus follow the teachings and examples of Jesus and the early Christians.
Jesus made no answer when he was falsely accused before Pilate. (Matthew 27:11-14; 1 Peter 2:21-23) Likewise, Jesus did not respond to accusations of being a drunkard and a glutton.
Instead, he let his actions speak for themselves, in harmony with the principle: “Wisdom is vindicated by its results.” (Matthew 11:19,) When the circumstances called for it, though, he boldly responded to those who slandered him.—Matthew 15:1-3; Mark 3:22-30.Jesus taught his followers not to be discouraged by false accusations.
He said: “Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake.” (Matthew 5:11, 12) Yet, Jesus also said that when such accusations opened the way for his followers to give a witness, he would fulfill his promise: “I will give you words and wisdom that all your opposers together will not be able to resist or dispute.”—Luke 21:12-15.
The apostle Paul counseled Christians to avoid pointless disputes with opposers, describing such arguments as “unprofitable and futile.”—Titus 3:9; Romans 16:17, 18.The apostle Peter encouraged Christians to defend their faith when possible. (1 Peter 3:15) Yet he recognized that this is often best done by action rather than by word. He wrote: “By doing good you may silence the ignorant talk of unreasonable men.”—1 Peter 2:12-15.
We respond to sincere people who are interested in finding out the truth, but we avoid getting into pointless arguments. We thus follow the teachings and examples of Jesus and the early Christians.
Jesus made no answer when he was falsely accused before Pilate. (Matthew 27:11-14; 1 Peter 2:21-23) Likewise, Jesus did not respond to accusations of being a drunkard and a glutton.
Instead, he let his actions speak for themselves, in harmony with the principle: “Wisdom is vindicated by its results.” (Matthew 11:19,) When the circumstances called for it, though, he boldly responded to those who slandered him.—Matthew 15:1-3; Mark 3:22-30.Jesus taught his followers not to be discouraged by false accusations.
He said: “Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake.” (Matthew 5:11, 12) Yet, Jesus also said that when such accusations opened the way for his followers to give a witness, he would fulfill his promise: “I will give you words and wisdom that all your opposers together will not be able to resist or dispute.”—Luke 21:12-15.
The apostle Paul counseled Christians to avoid pointless disputes with opposers, describing such arguments as “unprofitable and futile.”—Titus 3:9; Romans 16:17, 18.The apostle Peter encouraged Christians to defend their faith when possible. (1 Peter 3:15) Yet he recognized that this is often best done by action rather than by word. He wrote: “By doing good you may silence the ignorant talk of unreasonable men.”—1 Peter 2:12-15.
// Jesus made no answer when he was falsely accused before Pilate. (Matthew 27:11-14; 1 Peter 2:21-23)//
um excuse me - Pilate - are you the king of the jews
Christ - you say that I am
Pilate what is troof - - end of chapter
so um I count that as an answer. I have to say I am surprised at the sollipsism ( schoolboy mistake)
and NOT - take 2
Pilate are you the King of the Jews
Christ - ( says nothing)
Pilate o god I am going down the local deli and getting a latte
even tho - take 2 may mean more to us
um excuse me - Pilate - are you the king of the jews
Christ - you say that I am
Pilate what is troof - - end of chapter
so um I count that as an answer. I have to say I am surprised at the sollipsism ( schoolboy mistake)
and NOT - take 2
Pilate are you the King of the Jews
Christ - ( says nothing)
Pilate o god I am going down the local deli and getting a latte
even tho - take 2 may mean more to us
Khandro
//nailit: Suppose fate led you to be a double-glazing salesman & you knocked on the door of a JW trying to sell them your product, do you think you would be subjected to the degree of sarcasm which you demonstrated to them?//
Try reading the original OP.
//Most of the time I actually had a desire to debate/learn/exchange ideas with them but the feeling was not mutual//
Got a problem with that or just ignored it?
//I was never one for shutting the door in the face of someone who believed that they were doing good. Much rather have a mutual conversation//
Got a problem with that or just ignored it (again)?
I cited a *one off* situation.
//nailit: Suppose fate led you to be a double-glazing salesman & you knocked on the door of a JW trying to sell them your product, do you think you would be subjected to the degree of sarcasm which you demonstrated to them?//
Try reading the original OP.
//Most of the time I actually had a desire to debate/learn/exchange ideas with them but the feeling was not mutual//
Got a problem with that or just ignored it?
//I was never one for shutting the door in the face of someone who believed that they were doing good. Much rather have a mutual conversation//
Got a problem with that or just ignored it (again)?
I cited a *one off* situation.
P.P. No I could never understand that either, I think it is a literal interpretation of a line in the Bible.
I once employed a JW plumber when I was building a house in England & he had other strange ideas, didn't celebrate his children's birthdays etc. BUT that had nothing at all to do with his ability at his trade at which he was 1st class, conscientious, hard working, honest & polite.
I required nothing else.
I once employed a JW plumber when I was building a house in England & he had other strange ideas, didn't celebrate his children's birthdays etc. BUT that had nothing at all to do with his ability at his trade at which he was 1st class, conscientious, hard working, honest & polite.
I required nothing else.
The blood transfusion issue stems from a line in the Bible which tells people to abstain from blood, although the reference is to drinking the blood of animals. I wonder if they eat black pudding!
The birthday thing is because the Bible only mentions two birthdays; those of Pharaoh and King Herod, neither of whom are role models for the faithful.
The birthday thing is because the Bible only mentions two birthdays; those of Pharaoh and King Herod, neither of whom are role models for the faithful.
//You see nailit, the big difference between you and JWs is that you're full of hate//
No I dont see Khandro. Because Im not full of hate. Thats conjecture on your part. Some might even say 'projection'.
////Eve1974 // we were in the middle of an occultic rite and were about to sacrifice a cockerel///. LMAO!!!!//
Laughing your head off? Thats offensive to both JW's AND Pagans!////
I personally dont know any pagans that sacrifice cockerels...or any other animal for that matter...and it shows that you dont know how to differentiate between an (imagined) occultic practice and a pagan belief system.
No I dont see Khandro. Because Im not full of hate. Thats conjecture on your part. Some might even say 'projection'.
////Eve1974 // we were in the middle of an occultic rite and were about to sacrifice a cockerel///. LMAO!!!!//
Laughing your head off? Thats offensive to both JW's AND Pagans!////
I personally dont know any pagans that sacrifice cockerels...or any other animal for that matter...and it shows that you dont know how to differentiate between an (imagined) occultic practice and a pagan belief system.
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