Hell...

[nailit]

Justify it?

[nailit]

Are myself and naomi playthings of God??
What type of god is this? Its a monstrosity.

[nailit]

//Hell exists; I've seen people living in it. //
No you havnt Khandro.
Youve seen people suffering.
Youve never seen people suffering FOREVER!
As per the doctrine of the Christian hell.
(In flames...forever)

[Theland]

God knows the end from the beginning.
There are no surprises for Him.
He gives us over to what we demand in our free will.

[nailit]

Avoid uncomfortable question then...enough said.

[nailit]

Is he going to wipe my memory as well?

[Theland]

I avoid nothing.
Confront uncomfortable reality is the best I can advise, but railing against God is not the answer.
Sounds like you believe in God after all, but don't like Him.

[naomi24]

//God knows the end from the beginning//

Well I’ve read his biography and in my opinion he didn’t appear to know his derrière from his elbow!

[Theland]

A !title knowledge .... and all that .....

[naomi24]

Indeed, theland. Read on and if you’re very lucky hopefully you’ll think on.

[Theland]

I do. Always.

[nailit]

//Sounds like you believe in God after all, but don't like Him//
Even if I did (I dont) according to your own scriptures I have no choice??

Im just a piece of clay, molded to his purpose!

But Ironically you cannot see that YOU may be deceived either.
The Bible says that the heart is deceitful above all things.
And that God sends deceitful/lying spirits to people.
And that Satan can appear as an angel of light.
And that God Hardens peoples hearts to truth....

How can you ever be certain that you have it??

[nailit]

Christians like to bang on about freewill, except where God takes freewill away by hardening peoples hearts, or sending deceitful/lying spirits to decieve or allowing Satan to decieve as appearing as an angel of light)
How on Earth is freewill possible when God allows this?

[nailit]

Bet Theland's away now researching apologetic websites....
As a born again type fundie back in the day (pre internet) I would have ran away too...but to 'more informed christians' than myself.
Would also spend days in the library.

[Theland]

So if you believe in Satan and his deceitful lying minions, I guess you believe in the spirit world? And therefore God too?
You just can't bring yourself to admit it.
After all, you can continue in your denial for quite a while yet before you are called upon to give an account of yourself?

[nailit]

Any chance of a straight forward answer?

//So if you believe in Satan and his deceitful lying minions//

Not me that that makes that claim,
Its your bible.

[roadman]

Does hell need justification

[roadman]

People who end up in hell..

Justify their actions

Some things you just cant

[Theland]

I believe in the bible. Now you know too.

[nailit]

//People who end up in hell..

Justify their actions

Some things you just cant//


whats that in English?

[nailit]

//I believe in the bible. Now you know too//

No shi. sherlock!