In Defining 'Islamophobia'...

[Khandro]

 ... shouldn't we be very careful ?

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[Khandro]

naomi: /Khandro, //n. For once I'm in agreement with R.D. ! //in what way?/

Read the first para. 12:50 Mon.

[naomi24]

Khandro, Ah, yes.   He always tells it as it is.  ;o)

[Fatalbertfixer]

So if one has a fear of Islam,what does one call it?

[ToraToraTora]

naomi: "TTT, I don't see how.  We are led to believe that Islam is more liberal than it is - and we mistakenly endow its adherents with western mindsets." - well perhaps they have a different idea of what is "civilised". I don't I'd ever accuse them of being liberal though.

[Khandro]

 Fatalbertfixer //So if one has a fear of Islam,what does one call it?//

Islamophobia ain't necessarily a 'hate crime' as they would have you believe. Having fear of something doesn't mean you automatically 'hate' it.

I fear lions, but I don't hate them, I'd just tread warily in the jungle. 

[naomi24]

TTT, //well perhaps they have a different idea of what is "civilised". I don't I'd ever accuse them of being liberal though.//

 

I think a lot of people in the west prefer to keep their heads wel and truly in the sand.

[ToraToraTora]

Islamophobia is the wrong word, no one "fears" Islam we just can't stand their barbaric ways. What I fear where we'll end up with all the useful idiots that facilitate their barbarity. Many of them are on this site.

[naomi24]

TTT, // no one "fears" Islam //

 

Speak for yourself.  It terrifies me.

[ToraToraTora]

What terrifies me Naomi is not them but the TROBiscites in our midst that enable and facilitate them. Eventually even they will realise they have been duped when their gay mates are being lobbed off the shard. By then it will be too late, that's what frightens me.

[naomi24]

Indeed.

[Ellipsis]

> No one needs any hate specific laws.

Oh, that's easy then, just repeal all the ones that are already in place.  Maybe start by petitioning your local MP ...

Alternatively, have a long, hard think about why those laws were put on the statute book in the first place ...

[Untitled]

despite its etymology the truth is that "phobia" does not always mean fear but is often used to denote hatred (eg homophobia) 

there are people in this country who wish to see the muslim populations of the UK and europe eradicated either by extermination oppression or expulsion... and most of those same people will lie about it because they know that saying so openly will not work.. 

that's what we mean when we talk about "islamophobia"

[naomi24]

untitled, Who are 'we'?  

[Khandro]

Untitled //..there are people in this country who wish to see the muslim populations of the UK and europe eradicated either by extermination oppression or expulsion...//

Yeah, and there are also people who would like to see ditto of the indiginous poulations of the UK & Europe.

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "despite its etymology the truth is that "phobia" does not always mean fear but is often used to denote hatred (eg homophobia) " - ok so lets use the correct Greek suffix Misos. Would that be Islamimisosia?

[naomi24]

Untitled, you're quick to condemn but seemingly without ever asking why Islam meets with opposition. 

 

//Yeah, and there are also people who would like to see ditto of the indiginous poulations of the UK & Europe.//

 

That, from Khandro, is the salient point.  

[Untitled]

well if every last muslim is a threat naomi then i suppose we'd better just get on with it and kill them all eh?

[naomi24]

Once again you enter the realms of yur own fantasy, untitled.  No one said that or even suggested it.  Are you muslim?

[youngmafbog]

Pathetic.

[Untitled]

nope but it is very interesting you should ask me that. 
 

if you keep saying that muslims all think the same thing and that they are all to some extent or another an enemy of the west then what other conclusion is there to draw? you won't say it of course and you'll deny it strenuously... but we both know what you are doing. should it ever come to pass i think you'll make your peace with it very quickly