In Defining 'Islamophobia'...

[Khandro]

 ... shouldn't we be very careful ?

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[naomi24]

untitled, I'd be obliged if you'd stop fantasising.  It's bordering on insulting.

 

Now if you can handle a grown up converasation, considering Europe is now home to all sorts of people from all sorts of places and all sorts of cultures, have you ever thought about why the west doesn't suffer from 'Hindu-phobia' or 'Buddhist-phobia' - and what it is about Islam that makes it different from the rest?

[Untitled]

- the rampant peddling of hateful conspiracy theories since 9/11

 

- the refugee crisis 

 

- hostility between some arab nations and the west

[naomi24]

So from experience....

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: " - the rampant peddling of hateful conspiracy theories since 9/11" - yeah very irrational eh? People getting all angry at the fluffy bunny Muslims flying passenger jets into buildings killing 1000s. It's da cultcha innit! Surely the west can tolerate a bit of islamic exhuberance without getting all angry about it! Funny I don't remember the Buddists flying any planes into buildings, must have been out that day.

[naomi24]

The first six are pre-9/11 - the rest since that date.   None are conspiracy theories.

 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

 

 

[Untitled]

and they prove what exactly? that every last muslim is an implacable threat to us? if you really believe that to be the case then...

[naomi24]

Untitled, you're doing it again.  Get your head out of the sand.

[Stableford]

If you won't listen to reason, untitled, perhaps you'll listen to the Guardian? www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/17/attacks-across-europe-put-islamist-extremism-back-in-spotlight

 

[Untitled]

i think it's a reasonable question to ask what you believe that list of terror attacks proves naomi

[ToraToraTora]

They wouldn't hesitate to chop your head off too you know untitled.

[Untitled]

who is "they"? 

[Khandro]

Untitled: You should go and have a word with Salman Rushdie, stabbed in the eye because some bearded ass hole decreed he'd offended Islam (which he hadn't)

[naomi24]

Untitled,  There's just one single common factor on that list - Islam.   No other single group does what Islam does.  You know that, I know that, we all know that.  You may be content to deny reality and lie to yourself but stop taking everyone else for fools.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // You should go and have a word with Salman Rushdie, stabbed in the eye because some bearded ass hole decreed he'd offended Islam (which he hadn't) //

I don;t believe you can offend a concept, only people who adhere to it.

Therefore Mr Rushdie did not 'offend Islam' because that is not possible.

However, he did offend some extreme individuals who used the cover of purported adherence to visit physical harm on him.

Islam offended - No.

Islamists offended - Yes.

But that is not the same thing.

[Untitled]

why do islamic terror attacks "prove" that islam itself is a threat  to all of us and Hindu terrorism does not do the same for hinduism? the answer is because you do not have an axe to grind against hindus but you do against muslims. political extremism has as much to do with the phenomenon of terrorism as religion does. 

[naomi24]

You're in denial, untitled.

 

Andy Hughes, burn a koran and any Muslim will tell you that you have offended Islam.  Salman Rushdie wrote a book that offended Islam.   

[Khandro]

andy-hughes: //Therefore Mr Rushdie did not 'offend Islam' because that is not possible.//

Schiller/AFP)

PARIS (AFP) — Friday’s knife attack on Salman Rushdie at an event in New York comes more than 33 years after the fatwa against him by Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, in which he sentenced him to death.

The Fatwa

On February 14, 1989, Khomeini called for Rushdie to be killed for writing “The Satanic Verses,” which the cleric said insulted Islam.

In a fatwa, or religious decree, Khomeini urged “Muslims of the world rapidly to execute the author and the publishers of the book” so that “no one will any longer dare to offend the sacred values of Islam.”

Khomeini, who was 89 and had just four months to live, added that anyone who was killed trying to carry out the death sentence should be considered a “martyr” who would go to paradise.

A $2.8-million bounty was put on the writer’s head.

[ToraToraTora]

Well Hindus do not openly say that they want to kill or convert the entire planet. There may be some Hindu terrorism but it's rare compared to Islam. I'm amazed at the lengths that people like AH and untitled will go to defened the worlds most active terrorist religion.

[davebro3]

damn savages....

[Khandro]

"The British government immediately granted police protection to Rushdie, an atheist born in India to non-practicing Muslims. 

For almost 13 years he moved between safe houses under the pseudonym of Joseph Anton, changing base 56 times in the first six months. His solitude was worsened by the split with his wife American novelist Marianne Wiggins, to whom “The Satanic Verses” are dedicated."