Why Do You Hate Jesus?

[Theland1]

Why, apparently do so many people hate Jesus, or even the thought of Him?
That is what comes across so often on this topic.
And by the way - happy new year.

[WaldoMcFroog]

Actually, I do find the whole notion of Jeebus quite offensive. The idea that from birth I have some sin which needs to be forgiven and atoned for, that is 'paid' for by someone else without asking me whether I wanted them to do this, but nevertheless demands I say thank you or be sent for eternal torture in hell...

The whole idea is utterly ludicrous and it is offensive in the truest sense of the word.

With that said, I don't 'hate' Jeebus any more than I hate any other non-existent creature. I dislike the religion and all that entails, but that doesn't come close to 'hate' either..

[sara3]

what a bizarre question! surely if you believe in Jesus you don't hate him, and if you don't believe in him... you can't hate him.

does anyone hate the tooth fairy or Father Christmas?

[andy-hughes]

I don't hate anyone.

I don;t believe in Jesus, and would never waste time and energy trying to 'hate' an entity.

[Bathsheba]

I have to admit sara, i hate the tooth fairy. She visits me far more than is necessary :(

[naomi24]

Why would anyone who gave it a bit of thought hate Jesus? He's done nothing personally to warrant hatred. People might hate religion, but in reality religion has no connection whatsoever to the man called Jesus. If indeed, he did exist - and I believe historically he did - he was a devout Jew, not the son of God, but the offspring of a man and a woman, who had no intention of founding a new religion. He has been - and still is - shamefully and outrageously misrepresented. If he ever did return, I'm convinced he wouldn't be at all impressed by what has been manufactured in his name. Those who believe they are following him wouldn't recognise him - and they would be in for the shock of their lives.

[Theland1]

Waldo proves the point - he doesn't believe in Jesus, yet has to go out of his way to deliberately misspell His name. That is not an oversight for such an obviously incredibly intelligent person, just a cheap shot at Jesus.

[naomi24]

Theland. I don't think Waldo proves the point at all. If you look logically at what he said, he isn't getting at the man personally (he can't be - he doesn't believe he existed). It seems to me he's talking about the religion and what has been created in the name of Jesus, and that was the point I was making in my previous post. (Wanna custard pie?).

[Aquagility]

I don't know why you ask this question - is it maybe a wind-up?

I've never heard anyone, apart from those of another, militant faith, who hate Jesus. Even those who doubt or deny his divinity usually admire his teachings.

[naomi24]

What militant faith are you talking about Aquagility? I might be wrong, but I think you may be referring to Islam, and if so I would say that Muslims look upon Jesus as one of their prophets, and hold him in very high esteem.

[Aquagility]

Correct, naomi. But why do you preume to interpret what I am thinking?

[Theland1]

Calm down lads and lasses - Waldo deliberately chose to use a wrong spelling of Jesus, to emphasise his dislike of somebody that he doesn't believe in.
Even Hitler was given a correctly spelled name from our newspapers during the war, and even given a title, Herr, but Waldo uses a misspelling to emphasise his dislike, and drive the point home.
Ain't that right Waldo?

[naomi24]

My apologies, I didn't realise I was treading on toes, but if you fail to express your thoughts clearly, others have no alternative but to try to guess your meaning.

[Gormless]

What always puzzles me is that I'll bet every single person on this thread, given a copy of Caesar's Gallic Wars, would nod sagely and accept it as fact and history. The same people, given a copy of Luke's gospel, or Acts, would probably sneer "Balderdash! Fiction!"

But why! There is far more documentary evidence for Luke than for Caesar. No, the problem is that Caesar throwing armies at bulwarks admirably fortified by nature is credible to the human mind, whereas Jesus performing miracles, turning water into wine, rising from the dead, isn't. Why does that discredit it? Shouldn't God be allowed a few party tricks.

If what Luke wrote is close to the truth (and why should it not be?), then the consequences are simply staggering.

[naomi24]

Theland, dear. You know I'm always calm - even in the face of adversity! Now do you want that custard pie, or not? (I had one this afternoon, actually - although in the mouth rather than in the face. Mmm.... lovely).

[Theland1]

Naomi, my lovely and beautiful adversary, you know my weak spot for custard pie, so throw me one, and I'll leave you a dozen cyber roses behind your fridge.. also my boxers that need washing - go easy on the starch!

[Theland1]

I'll leave them under the roses!

[naomi24]

Why is it a puzzle, Gormless? Surely it's more logical to believe in something tangible, than to believe in something intangible like supernatural miracles. And why should we allow God any concessions? If a story doesn't add up, then it doesn't add up. Shame God didn't do a better job of recording it.

[Theland1]

I'm missing a leopard skin knitted thong - did I send it by mistake?
I love that thong. Bigmamma made it for me.