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Anjem Choudary
Just to let people know, Anjem Choudary is just about to be interviewed
on the Today program. Given this chaps previous stance on Islamic extremism, it should make interesting listening !
on the Today program. Given this chaps previous stance on Islamic extremism, it should make interesting listening !
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Absolutely - But winding up the easilly lead into vicious violent rages is exactly the tactics of people like that He leads you by the nose into one of your anti-muslim furys and you're just too angry to see it. Nothing he'd like more than for you and YMB to set fire to a few mosques I'd say Nothing messes with his agenda more than local muslims serving tea and...
08:52 Fri 20th Dec 2013
no it won't, because he says the same old tripe, that Sharia law will rule in Britain, that the killers of Lee Rigby were right in their actions over our stance in Islamic countries, that Islam is the true way and that infidels will come into line, or be eliminated as is the way of the Qu'ran,
haven't you ever listened to him, because i have, he gets lots of air time, publicity for his cause, and his followers hang on his every word. What i would like to see is an intelligent Muslim opponent tell him that he is out on a limb with this ideology that it's not wanted by people of Britain, that if he doesn't like the country, it's democracy, though i know he was born here, he should find a country that has all that he wishes, like Saudi
Arabia. He won't do that because essentially he is just a wretched coward who spouts this garbage and hides behind the law when it suits.
haven't you ever listened to him, because i have, he gets lots of air time, publicity for his cause, and his followers hang on his every word. What i would like to see is an intelligent Muslim opponent tell him that he is out on a limb with this ideology that it's not wanted by people of Britain, that if he doesn't like the country, it's democracy, though i know he was born here, he should find a country that has all that he wishes, like Saudi
Arabia. He won't do that because essentially he is just a wretched coward who spouts this garbage and hides behind the law when it suits.
personally his weasel words piss me off no end, as you can probably tell.
He wants to stop Muslims selling alcohol, as the march in Brick Lane showed, telling the restaurant, bar owners it's not the Islamic way,
forgetting that Brick Lane does not have just curry houses, it has lots of restaurants, bars that are more European in their cuisine, so is he suggesting they should tow the line. Telling people this is a Muslim area, and that gays are not wanted and women who wear make up are w hores
yes i have heard this tripe, why on earth should anyone listen to this
He wants to stop Muslims selling alcohol, as the march in Brick Lane showed, telling the restaurant, bar owners it's not the Islamic way,
forgetting that Brick Lane does not have just curry houses, it has lots of restaurants, bars that are more European in their cuisine, so is he suggesting they should tow the line. Telling people this is a Muslim area, and that gays are not wanted and women who wear make up are w hores
yes i have heard this tripe, why on earth should anyone listen to this
It's about time we stood up to their declaration of war and took up alms ourselves.
If we are at war with Islam then all mosques should be shut, all Muslims rounded up and interned (As we did with the Germans).
They want war, ok lets give it to them, at least in this country.
But of course the EU and ECHR would soon stomp on us defending ourselves!
If we are at war with Islam then all mosques should be shut, all Muslims rounded up and interned (As we did with the Germans).
They want war, ok lets give it to them, at least in this country.
But of course the EU and ECHR would soon stomp on us defending ourselves!
What I dont understand is surely his speeches are incitement to violence.
If any of us did this we would be arrested and prosecuted with all vigor and haste.
Saw the brother of Lee Rigbys killer this morning. He thinks his brother is right lets start by locking him up, he is clearly a danger to our unarmed troops on the streets.
If any of us did this we would be arrested and prosecuted with all vigor and haste.
Saw the brother of Lee Rigbys killer this morning. He thinks his brother is right lets start by locking him up, he is clearly a danger to our unarmed troops on the streets.
Debating with this idiot is like trying to nail custard to the wall.
John Humphrys gave him ample opportunity to condemn the butchering of Rigby, but he continued to avoid giving a clear and unequivocal answer. Every time he is interviewed on the radio or the TV, he puts on his usual performance. As a believer in free speech I am loath to deny him the right to his views but it made for very uncomfortable listening this morning. It was nothing other than weasel words. Humphrys should be congratulated for not losing his temper....I am not sure I could have been so controlled.
Choudary even said that he doesn't believe in democracy, which says everything I suppose. But the difficulty here is that a significant number of young Muslim people in Britain today will follow his every word.
A frightful and dangerous man.
John Humphrys gave him ample opportunity to condemn the butchering of Rigby, but he continued to avoid giving a clear and unequivocal answer. Every time he is interviewed on the radio or the TV, he puts on his usual performance. As a believer in free speech I am loath to deny him the right to his views but it made for very uncomfortable listening this morning. It was nothing other than weasel words. Humphrys should be congratulated for not losing his temper....I am not sure I could have been so controlled.
Choudary even said that he doesn't believe in democracy, which says everything I suppose. But the difficulty here is that a significant number of young Muslim people in Britain today will follow his every word.
A frightful and dangerous man.
I've just listened to that and would urge anyone who is in any doubt about Choudary's agenda, and that of his many cohorts, to do likewise. As he says 'You will never understand because you are not looking at it from an Islamic perspective' - and he's absolutely right. I posted this on another thread last night.
//Islamic fundamentalists consider all Muslims, regardless of country of origin, as brothers in Islam. They see the west as the enemy of Islam and western intervention into Islamic countries not as a war on any specific country, but as a war against a united Islam. If they were made aware in no uncertain terms that the majority of Muslims are not their 'brothers', it might well serve to indicate to them that they don't have the worldwide support they assume they have. This is a mindset like no other and it cannot be compared to anything the people of the west know and understand. Quite simply, they don't think as you or I do - and until we acknowledge that fact - and it is a fact - we will never begin to combat this. Time to stop making excuses for this, and time to stop trying to rationalise it. The reality is radical Islam is at war with us!!//
//Islamic fundamentalists consider all Muslims, regardless of country of origin, as brothers in Islam. They see the west as the enemy of Islam and western intervention into Islamic countries not as a war on any specific country, but as a war against a united Islam. If they were made aware in no uncertain terms that the majority of Muslims are not their 'brothers', it might well serve to indicate to them that they don't have the worldwide support they assume they have. This is a mindset like no other and it cannot be compared to anything the people of the west know and understand. Quite simply, they don't think as you or I do - and until we acknowledge that fact - and it is a fact - we will never begin to combat this. Time to stop making excuses for this, and time to stop trying to rationalise it. The reality is radical Islam is at war with us!!//
Lets see if I get this
8:27 YMB says:
//t's about time we stood up to their declaration of war and took up alms ourselves.
If we are at war with Islam then all mosques should be shut, all Muslims rounded up and interned (As we did with the Germans).
They want war, ok lets give it to them//
at 8:30 he says:
//What I dont understand is surely his speeches are incitement to violence. //
Who says irony is dead?
(Although his taking up 'alms' is the funniest slip I've seen in weeks!)
8:27 YMB says:
//t's about time we stood up to their declaration of war and took up alms ourselves.
If we are at war with Islam then all mosques should be shut, all Muslims rounded up and interned (As we did with the Germans).
They want war, ok lets give it to them//
at 8:30 he says:
//What I dont understand is surely his speeches are incitement to violence. //
Who says irony is dead?
(Although his taking up 'alms' is the funniest slip I've seen in weeks!)
Yes, apparently so Sandy, according to The Mail anyway...
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with the crackdown on those who can work yet claim benefits, why does he get any, he is able, obviously intelligent enough to train as a solicitor, so they should stop them and tell him to get a bloody job and support himself and his family.
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i have listened to him a number of times, he gets featured on the news often enough, he has said that he believes that the killing of Lee Rigby was justified, makes you proud that Britain bred such as this man, and more to follow undoubtedly. Cut off his benefits and any one who follows him that is able bodied, he is so why does he get this money.
Why isn't he prosecuted for inciting violence? Or, indeed, for a 'race hate' offence? Because he is trained as a lawyer and is very careful to keep within the bounds of free speech, and his words are framed in such a way that , when read, they stay within the law. That also explains why he avoids some direct questions; if he answered them directly, he might find himself outside the legal boundaries
ok it's the Mail, i am sure i could find other sources for this mans stance, words
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