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Anjem Choudary
Just to let people know, Anjem Choudary is just about to be interviewed
on the Today program. Given this chaps previous stance on Islamic extremism, it should make interesting listening !
on the Today program. Given this chaps previous stance on Islamic extremism, it should make interesting listening !
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Absolutely - But winding up the easilly lead into vicious violent rages is exactly the tactics of people like that He leads you by the nose into one of your anti-muslim furys and you're just too angry to see it. Nothing he'd like more than for you and YMB to set fire to a few mosques I'd say Nothing messes with his agenda more than local muslims serving tea and...
08:52 Fri 20th Dec 2013
We need to calm down guys ! The enemy isn't Islam, any more than the enemy wasn't the Catholic Church when we were fighting the IRA.
Setting fire to Mosques is a stupid idea and would just play into hands of Choudary, as Kromovaracun has said.
Its this ideology of hate that needs to be combated. The speaker who came on after Choudary this morning, whose name I can't remember I'm afraid, was right when he said that organised Islam in Britain needs to condemn with a lot more zeal than they have so far. There is ample evidence that these misguided and violent young British Muslim extremists are getting recruited and radicalised at their Mosques.
This problem isn't going to go away....people like Rigby's killers and that idiot Choudary have got a head of steam behind them. We need to change minds, not set fire to places of worship.
Setting fire to Mosques is a stupid idea and would just play into hands of Choudary, as Kromovaracun has said.
Its this ideology of hate that needs to be combated. The speaker who came on after Choudary this morning, whose name I can't remember I'm afraid, was right when he said that organised Islam in Britain needs to condemn with a lot more zeal than they have so far. There is ample evidence that these misguided and violent young British Muslim extremists are getting recruited and radicalised at their Mosques.
This problem isn't going to go away....people like Rigby's killers and that idiot Choudary have got a head of steam behind them. We need to change minds, not set fire to places of worship.
Jake - don't report his posts, that's silly. I really can't see that anything he's written is going to make anyone on AB go charging out of their front door headlong at the nearest Mosque.
YMB: No, I can't see the media relenting. Fortunately, the government doesn't control the media in our country.
"We need to get tough so ordinary Muslims are free to worship and go about their business as they please."
Okay. I don't see how shutting mosques and interning "all Muslims" would be conducive do that. Perhaps you could explain.
"You should be very afraid, people like him are not stupid, they brainwash others into doing what they want, and he wont stop until he is dead. "
I have no sympathy for Islam, and like all religion I think it's a lodestone around humanity's neck. But based on the arguments I've had with the more assertive Muslims when they've been leafletting near me, the only word I have for them is "stupid." They were just completely incapable of thinking. They were allergic to rationality.
I know full well that these are people who want to kill me -but I refuse to be intimidated by them or to have the theocratic thugs dictate to me how to live. I'm not scared of them.
YMB: No, I can't see the media relenting. Fortunately, the government doesn't control the media in our country.
"We need to get tough so ordinary Muslims are free to worship and go about their business as they please."
Okay. I don't see how shutting mosques and interning "all Muslims" would be conducive do that. Perhaps you could explain.
"You should be very afraid, people like him are not stupid, they brainwash others into doing what they want, and he wont stop until he is dead. "
I have no sympathy for Islam, and like all religion I think it's a lodestone around humanity's neck. But based on the arguments I've had with the more assertive Muslims when they've been leafletting near me, the only word I have for them is "stupid." They were just completely incapable of thinking. They were allergic to rationality.
I know full well that these are people who want to kill me -but I refuse to be intimidated by them or to have the theocratic thugs dictate to me how to live. I'm not scared of them.
i think they are a big threat, and more of these killings will happen here.
That moderate Muslims don't say anything against these people says rather a lot about them and their religion, some may do, but have had death threats against them, and their families.
This is not about our occupation of Islamic lands.
That moderate Muslims don't say anything against these people says rather a lot about them and their religion, some may do, but have had death threats against them, and their families.
This is not about our occupation of Islamic lands.
What is illegal about "responding to their threat of war"? Your remedy of internment requires an Act of Parliament, YMB. Closing all mosques would need one too, but no such Acts would ever pass without proper evidence that they were needed to keep the peace and to protect people from attack. Do you have any such evidence, that every mosque in Britain wants terrorist acts and murder and is encouraging that, or that every Muslim here presents a risk?
Jake to YMB //You are straying well into the area of illegality…. it might be best if you reported yourself and asked Ed to clean up this thread a bit//
Rot! In an effort to silence people who disagree with you, you've accused them of verbally attacking Muslims and of wanting to set fire to mosques - and you have the gall to tell someone who suggests we acknowledge what amounts to a declaration of war that his posts are 'illegal'. Choudary openly confesses he is proud of the killers of Lee Rigby. Sort your brain out, Jake!
YMB is right. Choudary is far from stupid. He's an extremely dangerous man.
Rot! In an effort to silence people who disagree with you, you've accused them of verbally attacking Muslims and of wanting to set fire to mosques - and you have the gall to tell someone who suggests we acknowledge what amounts to a declaration of war that his posts are 'illegal'. Choudary openly confesses he is proud of the killers of Lee Rigby. Sort your brain out, Jake!
YMB is right. Choudary is far from stupid. He's an extremely dangerous man.
it is not about being cowed, it is however about seeing more atrocities because of their indoctrination into Islamic fundamentalism. If i looked over my shoulder at any perceived threat i wouldn't go out, but i wonder if any have been close to an area where a bomb has gone off and seen the results, been as close as one could get without being harmed, thank heavens, i have and i don't fancy another go.
emmie, since when has silence meant guilt by association or proof that the silent person is in all for atrocities ?
Have you any evidence that the Muslims of this country are living in fear of reprisals if they condemn such acts and beliefs? But , if they were,that would be evidence enough that they did not approve.
Have you any evidence that the Muslims of this country are living in fear of reprisals if they condemn such acts and beliefs? But , if they were,that would be evidence enough that they did not approve.
Naomi...you should read Jakes post again, as I think you are getting confused. He hasn't suggested that setting fire to Mosques is a good idea at all...in fact he was condemning YMB's stance. Jake has also made a very intelligent comment about local Mosques offering tea and biscuits to the EDL...an excellent idea ! We should be building bridges.
That is why I gave him best answer !
That is why I gave him best answer !
why is this so called broadcasting company giving this vile piece of excrement the time of day ? let me guess , its reverse pyschology....pfffft
he is very very careful with every word that he spews thats why hes still allowed to walk the streets of a country that he hates so much
As i think doug said earlier martydom would be a huge plus in this case, sooner the better then all his little dreams will be fulfilled
him and his sort are taking the pizz out of every single one of us and for some reason we cannot find a way to get this traitor off our streets and unfortunately out of our country.
unfortunately sometimes you need a war as the excuse to get rid of filth like this.
make no mistake he and his gang of lackeys are nothing less than traitors.
sadly we have a very weak government and whos hands are tied by ECHRidicule, some nobody makes a comment about a golliwog..yeah theytake action, this trash theyre scared to lift a finger
where theres a will theres a way, unfortunately they dont seem to want to find the way, probably scared of a backlash from the rest of the hordes of muslims quitely biding there time over here waiting to become a majority
totally spineless, I refuse to believe that there is no possible way to get these traitors off our streets
he is very very careful with every word that he spews thats why hes still allowed to walk the streets of a country that he hates so much
As i think doug said earlier martydom would be a huge plus in this case, sooner the better then all his little dreams will be fulfilled
him and his sort are taking the pizz out of every single one of us and for some reason we cannot find a way to get this traitor off our streets and unfortunately out of our country.
unfortunately sometimes you need a war as the excuse to get rid of filth like this.
make no mistake he and his gang of lackeys are nothing less than traitors.
sadly we have a very weak government and whos hands are tied by ECHRidicule, some nobody makes a comment about a golliwog..yeah theytake action, this trash theyre scared to lift a finger
where theres a will theres a way, unfortunately they dont seem to want to find the way, probably scared of a backlash from the rest of the hordes of muslims quitely biding there time over here waiting to become a majority
totally spineless, I refuse to believe that there is no possible way to get these traitors off our streets
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