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Is this really neccessary, an admin teenager tried nearly eighty years on?
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Like others, I feel that this lady, when a girl, didn't really have a choice. She was a typist. Had she refused to work or protested - her life would probably have been forfeit. Other Germans who were not Nazis had to keep the country running - postmen, bus-drivers etc.. Are they also guilty of something in helping the regime to exist? There was nothing in her...
18:19 Tue 20th Dec 2022
there's a lot to be said for forgiveness - for individuals it can be very cathartic and part of a healing process, but states/countries shouldn't forgive and forget IMO. It's part of what prevents the same atrocities happening again. so crimes are so heinous that simply being associated with them even in what seems a very tangential manner (as i said i was at the trial so i dont know how close her role was) in enough for punishment. I'm sure there were some very nice people in the SS. but the SS overall is bad
naomi - // I think a lot of Germans did a lot of things they didn’t want to do - for obvious reasons. //
So far, your two contributions to the thread both effectively say the same thing - the woman in question, along with millions of other Germans, was forced into working in a system she may have found abhorrent, because she was in fear of her life.
When I responded that we may as well not bother to pursue any of the current war criminals, because they are operating under similar conditions, you dismissed as 'illogical'.
To my mind, it is the very essence of logic.
You are suggesting that a woman who acted for an oppressive regime should not be held responsible for her part in that regime's actions.
I am simply updating your position to today, when clearly we cannot hold conscripted militia responsible for their actions in Ukraine, because they may be acting against their will, in the interests of self-preservation.
If there is an absence of logic between connecting the two scenarios, perhaps you'd care to explain it to anyone who is interested.
So far, your two contributions to the thread both effectively say the same thing - the woman in question, along with millions of other Germans, was forced into working in a system she may have found abhorrent, because she was in fear of her life.
When I responded that we may as well not bother to pursue any of the current war criminals, because they are operating under similar conditions, you dismissed as 'illogical'.
To my mind, it is the very essence of logic.
You are suggesting that a woman who acted for an oppressive regime should not be held responsible for her part in that regime's actions.
I am simply updating your position to today, when clearly we cannot hold conscripted militia responsible for their actions in Ukraine, because they may be acting against their will, in the interests of self-preservation.
If there is an absence of logic between connecting the two scenarios, perhaps you'd care to explain it to anyone who is interested.
bednobs - // I'm sure there were some very nice people in the SS. //
It's raison d'etre and its history rather suggests otherwise, I think you'll find -
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It's raison d'etre and its history rather suggests otherwise, I think you'll find -
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