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Should Starmer Boot This Eejit Out?

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ToraToraTora | 15:49 Thu 11th Jul 2024 | News
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1922019/labour-clive-lewis-protest-sworn-in

I don't care that he's a republican but if he is prepared to compromise his own beliefs by falsely swearing allegiance to the sovereign just to get into parliament he clearly has no moral compass. What else is hidden beneath that slimey exterior?

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“Change the word Republican to Catholic, or Muslim, or Poor....”

I don’t know about poor -  and  I imagine very few poor people stand for Parliament anyway  - but I doubt Catholics or Muslims have a particular objection to swearing or affirming allegiance to the Crown. 

“There should be an alternative way to be sworn in, like you dont have to swear on the Bible in Court.”

There is, youngmaf. MPs can take an “affirmation” which is what I believe Mr Lewis did. His objection was that he had to affirm his allegiance to the Crown.

 “Haaa! You'd love that wouldn't you :)”

Not particular, no, I wouldn’t. 

“the fact that a republican must compromise themselves in order to enter parliament is a problem with our rules and traditions...”

The UK has a Constitutional Monarchy. Anybody wishing to get that changed should lobby their MP. If elected as an MP a Republican must swear or affirm allegiance to the Crown. To do so “under protest” – especially when standing on the ticket of a party which has made no mention of challenging that institution – is disingenuous. 

One shouldn't expect to have to swear allegiance to a member of a royal family, but to the nation.

 

If Starmer threw out all the eejits would there be any politicians left in the House ?

NJ, refusing to take the Oath would not result in a by-election as demonstrated by Sinn Féin MPs who have not taken an oath to the Crown but were/are MPs still.

What would you rather he did?

Your own Saint Nigel took a position in the EU government despite believing it shouldn't exist, so he could work to bring it down.

Similarly, this bloke isn't going to achieve his aim of abolishing the monarchy by staying out of parliament.

I'm reasonably local to Norwich and although Lewis is fairly popular in his constituency, it's very localised. Being a Corbynite he's not so popular in the wider community, nor with businesses. 
It's OK for him to be a republican, but if he stands as an MP he could find a more gracious way of displaying his opinions.
His childish protest is actually his response to not being offered a job in the cabinet.  
 

"Anybody wishing to get that changed should lobby their MP. "

who, according to you, must be a monarchist in order to enter parliament. great! 
 

surely you can see the comparison between this and the election atheist MPs back in the nineteenth century?

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