Good old NHS

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/hea lth/health/article2037352.ece

And this is only the Poles.

[rov1200]

This is the same problem as the Irish flocking to the UK to have abortions. In 2000 there were 6381 Irish abortions so I don't know what the position is now.

http://www.prochoiceforum.org.uk/comm75.asp

[daffy654]

If the women requiring/wanting a termination of pregnancy are from a Catholic country then they have no choice but to seek the termination in a country that allows such things.I don't see the problem here really other than the cost issue. Would you object AOG if they had to pay for the procedure?

[anotheoldgit]

No objection at all if they all went into private abortion clinics.

[daffy654]

Thanks for the answer AOG,I just wondered whether your objection was due to financial or moral reasons.

[123everton]

Are they doing something illegal?

[Whickerman]

Oh for god's sake. Another rant at a tabloid half-story. This is getting tiring.

The fact is there's a reciprical arrangement in place in all eu countries, but that doesn't mean that eu citizens can arrive and be treated on your NHS with no payback. Every penny is calculated and charged to the originating country, in this case Poland.

In fact, the UK is one of the few that welshes on your debts. The charge for treating UK citizens in Irish hospitals last year was 450 MILLION euro, of which the British government has paid only 100 million.

So before you read half-truths in the tabloids, do a little research.

[R1Geezer]

tell you what though AOG, at least they won't be charging us Child benefit on them for 16 years, it could be a result!

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/20 08/0910/1220919677959.html

Whickerman

Before you accuse me of having another rant over a tabloid half story, perhaps you should look a little further close to home.

I have been prepared to do a little research but unlike you, I haven't just picked out half the story, I have been prepared to publish the source of the full story.

Maybe now others can read it and make up their own minds? But it seems to me like another case of the UK being ripped off once again.

[terambulan]

There's no reason why the NHS can't bills & chase (thru collection agencies) for payment.

I have experience of such from NHS for 1week @ �53k for OH! Or maybe its just the indiginous ppl who pay?

[anotheoldgit]

Continued...........

http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=146 68

[sqad617]

Private abortions, in Private Hospitals in the UK paid for by whoever, is not a problem for me. BUT: operating time and bed occupancy providing abortions to foreigners, does leave a nast taste in my mouth considering waiting lists for Gynaecological proceedures.

[Whickerman]

aog - I didn't just pick out half the story! Your 2nd link bears out exactly what I'd said...!

Here's the text: More bad funding news for health service

[Posted: Mon 24/11/2008]

The health service's financial woes have increased following the news that an expected �350 million grant from the British government will not be materialising this year.

The HSE had, in its budgetary deliberations, factored in getting around �450 million this year from the UK for treating people in Irish hospitals who are covered by social insurance in Britain.

However, according to a report in today's Irish Times, the British Government has reviewed the amount paid to the HSE under this heading and has scaled down the payment to �100 million.

The Government will now have to introduce a supplementary estimate before the end of the year to make up the shortfall.

Meanwhile, health service unions have said that around 10% of the country's hospital beds will be closed next year due to cutbacks.

This would be in addition to over 500 beds that are already closed. Over 1,000 beds in the system are currently unavailable for admissions due to cutbacks, delayed discharges or refurbishment work.

HSE CEO Prof Brendan Drumm, in a recent interview with irishhealth.com. warned that the HSE may have to make savings of at least �300 or �400 million next year in order to live within its restricted budget.

This is in addition to �280 million in savings made this year
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The allegations contained in the first link were not substantiated at all. How does my post differ from that?