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Wayne Couzens Should Be Hung For The Cold Blooded Murder Of Sarah Everard
Bring back hanging, why should ratepayers pay to keep him alive for the rest of his life which will cost millions
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andy hughes
Because our laws and punishments are not based on perceived ecconomic niceties - and amen to that.
But when a whole life term is ordered they certainly ought to be
Always amazed at the view of people who try to reason that Couzens or Huntley or Whiting deserve to remain alive after the suffering they cause to their victims but also the families
That poor girls family and friends will live a sentence of their own
Because our laws and punishments are not based on perceived ecconomic niceties - and amen to that.
But when a whole life term is ordered they certainly ought to be
Always amazed at the view of people who try to reason that Couzens or Huntley or Whiting deserve to remain alive after the suffering they cause to their victims but also the families
That poor girls family and friends will live a sentence of their own
Stickybottle - // andy hughes
Because our laws and punishments are not based on perceived ecconomic niceties - and amen to that.
But when a whole life term is ordered they certainly ought to be //
Do I understand you to say that if, as in this case, a murdererer is going to spend the rest of his natural life in prison, we should balk at the financial burden on the state and opt not to invest in it, but to execute him purely to save money?
// Always amazed at the view of people who try to reason that Couzens or Huntley or Whiting deserve to remain alive after the suffering they cause to their victims but also the families
That poor girls family and friends will live a sentence of their own //
I am not reasoning that they deserve to remain alive, my argument is that society is dminished by killing them, which may appear to be a subtle distinction, and it is, but it is also vital in my view.
Because our laws and punishments are not based on perceived ecconomic niceties - and amen to that.
But when a whole life term is ordered they certainly ought to be //
Do I understand you to say that if, as in this case, a murdererer is going to spend the rest of his natural life in prison, we should balk at the financial burden on the state and opt not to invest in it, but to execute him purely to save money?
// Always amazed at the view of people who try to reason that Couzens or Huntley or Whiting deserve to remain alive after the suffering they cause to their victims but also the families
That poor girls family and friends will live a sentence of their own //
I am not reasoning that they deserve to remain alive, my argument is that society is dminished by killing them, which may appear to be a subtle distinction, and it is, but it is also vital in my view.
Mamya - // Part of me actually wishes there could be a vote/referendum on this,as when it was over these debates would dry up (or would they?).
However how such a vote could be simply worded (without ifs, ands and buts I don't know). //
As I see it, the issue becomes clouded by emotions, and this and the many other debates on this site clearly illustrate that.
But if we start allowing emotions to dictate our legal processes, we step onto a very very slippery slope.
Who decides the level of grief, the injustice, the horror, and so on and so forth, in every murder case, bearing in mind that every single one is a unique set of circumstances.
That is why, in my view, laws have to be framed and enacted with emotion left outside the court, because that is the only way that true justice can be established and fulfilled.
It's by no means a perfect system, but it remains by a very long distance, the best we have to work with.
However how such a vote could be simply worded (without ifs, ands and buts I don't know). //
As I see it, the issue becomes clouded by emotions, and this and the many other debates on this site clearly illustrate that.
But if we start allowing emotions to dictate our legal processes, we step onto a very very slippery slope.
Who decides the level of grief, the injustice, the horror, and so on and so forth, in every murder case, bearing in mind that every single one is a unique set of circumstances.
That is why, in my view, laws have to be framed and enacted with emotion left outside the court, because that is the only way that true justice can be established and fulfilled.
It's by no means a perfect system, but it remains by a very long distance, the best we have to work with.
andy-hughes
Stickybottle - // andy hughes
Because our laws and punishments are not based on perceived ecconomic niceties - and amen to that.
But when a whole life term is ordered they certainly ought to be //
Do I understand you to say that if, as in this case, a murdererer is going to spend the rest of his natural life in prison, we should balk at the financial burden on the state and opt not to invest in it, but to execute him purely to save money?
In light of ever increasing demands on budgets in the nhs etc it most certainly ought to be a consideration
It is obscene that hundreds of thousands will be wasted on this monster whilst people suffer long waits for treatment
Many get delayed too long and never get the treatment in time and the press has been awash with such stories of late
A rabid dog that attacks and kills is destroyed immediately
It is not put in a secure facility to live out its days
Treatments cost money
Imagine the extra cost his incarceration will incur because of having been a police officer too ?
What a tragic waste of a young woman’s life and an obscene waste of money on the animal that is Couzens
This was not a spur of the moment crime but sickening in its premeditation
He warrants and certainly deserves immediate death
Stickybottle - // andy hughes
Because our laws and punishments are not based on perceived ecconomic niceties - and amen to that.
But when a whole life term is ordered they certainly ought to be //
Do I understand you to say that if, as in this case, a murdererer is going to spend the rest of his natural life in prison, we should balk at the financial burden on the state and opt not to invest in it, but to execute him purely to save money?
In light of ever increasing demands on budgets in the nhs etc it most certainly ought to be a consideration
It is obscene that hundreds of thousands will be wasted on this monster whilst people suffer long waits for treatment
Many get delayed too long and never get the treatment in time and the press has been awash with such stories of late
A rabid dog that attacks and kills is destroyed immediately
It is not put in a secure facility to live out its days
Treatments cost money
Imagine the extra cost his incarceration will incur because of having been a police officer too ?
What a tragic waste of a young woman’s life and an obscene waste of money on the animal that is Couzens
This was not a spur of the moment crime but sickening in its premeditation
He warrants and certainly deserves immediate death
There's a part of me that believes that those who kill in such a horrific manner should suffer similar mental and physical pain. I don't believe a death sentence does that. I've no doubt Couzens will suffer in jail...at least that's what I'd wish for him. But that's definitely my emotional response.
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