Fake Prince Andrew Photo

[Gingerbaker]

Could it be true that the photo of Prince Andrew with the young lady (forget her name) could be fake. Since I heard about it I studied the photo and his left hand around her waist looks a bit iffy in terms of indenting and creasing. What do you think?

[ZebuSanctuary]

// she was a worldly-wise 17 year old who was having a good time with the rich and famous //

Why do these words ^^^^^ seem to echo those of an apologist for the Epsteins of this world, and any other would be sex trafficker?

[murraymints]

on some level I agree with Naomi.. I suspect the girl was drawn in and became used to the cash and "glamour" of the world she was living in.. it does not excuse Epstein, Ghislane or the other parties involved...their behaviour was boorish, manipulative, illegal at times and morally unjustifiable...however... the word NO does exist .... there does rather seem to be a whiff of I'll make him pay up about the whole affair... and it seems this was not her first pay off ?

[davebro]

Yes - she got money from Maxwell didn't she. And she's used some of it to set up a charity. I think she's done darn well exposing the dubious practices of some of the rich & famous. Maybe they'll think twice in future.

[murraymints]

Davebro.. at least , if nothing else ,it has brought about the downfall of those involved in these nefarious practices

[royfromaus]

naomi24
She was 17, not 14.

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But how old was she when the grooming started?

[naomi24]

Roy, I looked it up for you. Apparently her father got her a job as a Spa Assistant at the rather swish Mar-A- Largo resort in Florida when she was 17. That's where she met Maxwell who offered her a job as a 'travelling masseuse for an older gentleman', which she accepted.

https://www.nationalworld.com/news/people/virginia-giuffre-who-is-prince-andrews-accuser-how-did-she-meet-ghislaine-maxwell-and-who-is-her-husband-3544291

I don’t know how many 17 year old girls the men on here who are huffing and puffing over this have known, but I've known quite a lot and whilst most are ordinary girls living ordinary lives, some are not - and I think Murraymints might agree with me there too because I suspect she's known quite a few 17 year old girls too. I really think some of you chaps are rather naïve - and don’t forget that years before she made her accusations against Prince Andrew this woman had already accepted $500,000 from Epstein to keep her mouth shut. Sorry, her tale, for me, just doesn't wash.

[Old_Geezer]

Everyone here are (obviously) expressing opinion, since no one here can know. Seems to me only those involved have any inclining, and it's not impossible that even some there may not have realised the true full situation.

4 pages on a photo legitimacy seems to show a lot of lack of clarity.

[Paigntonian]

Andrew befriended someone he knew to be a paedophile. He made a royal lodge house available for a paedophile. He flew with a paedophile. This is not about one young lady. It's about his character.

[barry1010]

I do wish people would stop bandying the word 'paedophile' about. It has a proper, legal definition and means a person who is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children, typically under 12. No sexual development at all.
A paedophile would not be attracted to a child that could pass for 14 or older.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - Why are you 'sorry'?

If an opinion is worth holding and offering, why would you need to dilute it by being sorry for what you think?

[goodgoalie]

Don't get yourself down, andy - Rosie Jones is on Friday Night Live on Channel 4 this Friday at 9pm. That should cheer us all up!

[andy-hughes]

Goodgoalie, I'll be on a cruise ship by then, bound for the Caribbean.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind...

[goodgoalie]

I could record it and send you a link......

[andy-hughes]

Tempting goodgoalie, but I wouldn't want to put you to any trouble!

[Paigntonian]

Barry: Please enlighten me. If you can't call men who abuse under-the-legal-age girls paedophiles is there another noun?

[Paigntonian]

Barry: I think I've got it. How's about rapist?

[andy-hughes]

Paigntonian - the general term 'abuser' fits for someone who does not fall within the stated age ranges that define paedophilia.

[Peter Pedant]

// she was a worldly-wise 17 year old //

I am sorry Zebu you get 17 y o tarts. Shocking I know. Even her parents were suspicious and asked fella or girlie who said no of course.

I can tell you where the cheapest tarts in Manchester are to be found ( hired) not that you would go : I realise your interest is academic

same with the pinko fat gangster DOminic Doo-dah - all the young men he hired knew what he was up to

[Peter Pedant]

If you can't call men who abuse under-the-legal-age girls paedophiles is there another noun?

excuse me whilst we wonder aloud if the word is lu-lu or la-la - vieux ta-ta or pede

can we be clear that she was over 16 in England and so wonder-boy cd NOT be extradited. and she recovered in civil law
( has to be a crime perhaps with different names in bofe countries)

[Peter Pedant]

On this thread, can I take on a poncey look, and ask Abers
to keep their eye on the ball
thank you all