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who would be a at fault if we had collided?
a coule of weeks ago, i was parked at the side of the road in designated bays that do not block the road at all...just behind me was a bus stop, which is not a bay sort, so the bus blocks the traffic for a moment...
as the bus had only just stopped, the way was clear for me to pull out...i checked my mirrors and there was no car beside the bus....so i pulled out...but as i did a car overtook the bus and flew round into my lane.
we didnt collide but they beeped me...
to my mind, i have right of way here and i cant be expected to know that they are going to overtake the bus...i know they might do, but i cant sit and wait on the offchance ... you could not see a car overtaking from where i was, until its out the other side so itd have made no difference anyway...
surely they should have been aware that there may have been a vehicle in front of the bus and been ready to pause...
they are the ones performing a manouvre and moving into the wrong lane.
but if theyd hit me...who would have been blamed?
i think them...but am i wrong?
cheers
as the bus had only just stopped, the way was clear for me to pull out...i checked my mirrors and there was no car beside the bus....so i pulled out...but as i did a car overtook the bus and flew round into my lane.
we didnt collide but they beeped me...
to my mind, i have right of way here and i cant be expected to know that they are going to overtake the bus...i know they might do, but i cant sit and wait on the offchance ... you could not see a car overtaking from where i was, until its out the other side so itd have made no difference anyway...
surely they should have been aware that there may have been a vehicle in front of the bus and been ready to pause...
they are the ones performing a manouvre and moving into the wrong lane.
but if theyd hit me...who would have been blamed?
i think them...but am i wrong?
cheers
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JOKO YOU ARE STILL AT FAULT I HAVE TO CAPITALIZE THIS AS YOU ARE NOT TAKING HEED.
you are wrong you are wrong you are wrong!! is that enough to shut you up?
you are wrong you are wrong you are wrong!! is that enough to shut you up?
10:10 Wed 31st Aug 2011
ok if this is a blind corner then there are a few problems with that, firstly there should NOT be a bus stop on any road that causes a hazzard for other road users but if it is like that then the other driver should not proceed if he cannot se whts ONCOMING
I don't know why I am still answering!! I feel like I am the bus driver now. I have lost the will to live.
oko can you drive down my street, I wanna commit suicide!
I don't know why I am still answering!! I feel like I am the bus driver now. I have lost the will to live.
oko can you drive down my street, I wanna commit suicide!
I am not trying to wind you up, joko, but take heed of your own avatar and what that says.
Calmly take it aboard, think that both of you (Underscored) were lucky that there was no incident, no police case or tickets, and move on, calmly......excuse that pun.
Bet the bus driver was muttering "what a pair of fecking morons, we have here"
Calmly take it aboard, think that both of you (Underscored) were lucky that there was no incident, no police case or tickets, and move on, calmly......excuse that pun.
Bet the bus driver was muttering "what a pair of fecking morons, we have here"
oh i do dt, i am glad there was no incident...but i just dont understand this.
i am not just trying to defend myself here...why would i?
i want to understand exactly and i cannot
peeler feel free to stop answering...your responses have been pretty pointless and yet again you demonstarte that you have not read the question or posts proeperly....there is no blind corner.
and the fact is, there is a bus stop on the road, so thats a moot point too.
and yes no driver should continue if they cannot see what is oncoming...that has been my point the whole time....the overtaker could not see the road ahead was clear in front of the bus, but he overtook it anyway...surely that is the problem here?
the only hazard here was because someone overtook when there way was not clear...
i have done this same thing, many many times and never had an problem ,,,because the bus had stopped and no other cars were in my path....
i am not just trying to defend myself here...why would i?
i want to understand exactly and i cannot
peeler feel free to stop answering...your responses have been pretty pointless and yet again you demonstarte that you have not read the question or posts proeperly....there is no blind corner.
and the fact is, there is a bus stop on the road, so thats a moot point too.
and yes no driver should continue if they cannot see what is oncoming...that has been my point the whole time....the overtaker could not see the road ahead was clear in front of the bus, but he overtook it anyway...surely that is the problem here?
the only hazard here was because someone overtook when there way was not clear...
i have done this same thing, many many times and never had an problem ,,,because the bus had stopped and no other cars were in my path....
to my mind, i have right of way here and i cant be expected to know that they are going to overtake the bus...i know they might do, but i cant sit and wait on the offchance ... you could not see a car overtaking from where i was, until its out the other side so itd have made no difference anyway...
^^^^^Taken from your original uestion^^^^^
read it again and tell me it wasnt your fault. that comment displays impatience. you should sit and wait on the off chance if you CANNOT SEE! assumption is not a defence
^^^^^Taken from your original uestion^^^^^
read it again and tell me it wasnt your fault. that comment displays impatience. you should sit and wait on the off chance if you CANNOT SEE! assumption is not a defence
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for all this other driver knew there could have been 5 or 6 cars in front of the bus...you cannot see from behind the bus because of the angle of the road...
Explain the angle of the road?? If I am behind a bus and i cannot see past it because of the angle of the road, the it has to be on a blind bend! does anyone else here think I am wrong?
for all this other driver knew there could have been 5 or 6 cars in front of the bus...you cannot see from behind the bus because of the angle of the road...
Explain the angle of the road?? If I am behind a bus and i cannot see past it because of the angle of the road, the it has to be on a blind bend! does anyone else here think I am wrong?
oh peeler...please...i have said that because clearly i can seen that some people would take foolish risks... so i acknowledge things can happen of couse...you could say that to relate to any situation...the point is the other car surely should not have attempted to over take the bus when the road ahead was not visible...for all he knew there was a van unloading, a car turning left or right, who knows...?
he just shot out and round the bus without considering the other side...
i was already in the road and driving away when hed finished his manouvre, which shows the way was clear when i began moving...the car was not there when i set off...
he has clearly rounded the bus and tried to pull into the correct side of the road, but couldnt do i where he expcted to because i was there...
he pulled round a blind bend basically and couldnt get back in again...
he just shot out and round the bus without considering the other side...
i was already in the road and driving away when hed finished his manouvre, which shows the way was clear when i began moving...the car was not there when i set off...
he has clearly rounded the bus and tried to pull into the correct side of the road, but couldnt do i where he expcted to because i was there...
he pulled round a blind bend basically and couldnt get back in again...
it sounds to me a bit like reversing out of a parking space at the supermarket. How are you supposed to see if theres anything coming when you've got a white van or a 4x4 on each side of you? You just have to do it very slowly and carefully and hope that anyone coming down the lane is paying attention. But if someone did collide with you I expect it'd be your fault, though it sounds unfair.
The bus situation sounds similar.
The bus situation sounds similar.
jno - i dont think its quite the same, as this person was on the wrong side of the road, blindly overtaking a bus, so although i edged out at no point did it really expect a car to come around it.
in a car park i would know i was blind and know cars could be anywhere so i would edge slowly
as i said, there was no near miss, they just had expected there to be a gap
in a car park i would know i was blind and know cars could be anywhere so i would edge slowly
as i said, there was no near miss, they just had expected there to be a gap
were there two continuous white lines in the centre of the road? if not then if he could see the other oncoming lane was clear then he is able to overtake the bus. yes with caution and if he was exceeding the speed limit then he would be at fault should a collision occur but none of this seems to be the case so what more do you want?
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