2 Blokes snogging?

[R1Geezer]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...gland-london-13091833
Offensive or not? Was the landlord being a prude here? Do you cringe when you see gays kissing in public?

[Mick-Talbot]

the fact is, they were asked to leave.
they should have left.

[LoftyLottie]

Let's put that to the test - has anyone here on AB ever in their entire lives ever ever ever seen a straight couple being asked to leave a pub, club or bar for snogging?

Yes, when I was 17 and it was me! :o(

I actually think I was being stupid and under the influence of too many vodkas. And yes I did drink when I was underage, most of us did back then in the 60's!!

Since'growing up', I hate to see people snogging in public, but don't find it offensive in any way. Just very attention seeking.

[LoftyLottie]

And that goes for both sexes.

And like other, shows of affection like kissing, hand holding, etc, by either hetro or homosexuals doesn't bother me in the slightest.

[NOX]

No sp she's not, she's better looking;-)

[sp1814]

Mick-Talbot

They did.

But they did what I would do - they created an unholy fuss, because they were dealing with someone who was targetting them for their sexuality.

Let's put it this way - if I knew this couple and found out that they apologised and meekly crept out of the establishment, I would have a real go at them.

Let me just alter the story for you so you can see how offensive the landlord was being:

A black couple in a bar are asked to leave because their presence offended a number of patrons. The couple apologise to the landlord for being black and leave.

It's exactly the same story - if you heard THAT story, wouldn't you think "Blimey, what a pair of wimps..."

[Mick-Talbot]

no sp, they refused to leave .

[sp1814]

Mick-Talbot

No evidence of that in the story.

Also, compare the same story to the one on the Guardian website (which also ties in with certain facts on 'pinknews'.

"Bull said he was putting on his coat to leave and had given Williams "a peck on the lips" when the woman, who was wearing a staff uniform, came up to them. "She said we had to leave because we were being obscene. Then the other guy from earlier came over again and said we had to leave now, we 'weren't allowed to do that'." Bull and Williams said the man took hold of Williams's coat lapels as he asked them to leave the pub, and fellow drinkers joined in the pair's protestations of innocence."

[sp1814]

This is quite interesting:

"The case is intriguing legally. The Licensing Act 2003 gives a landlord the right to eject customers. But the Equality Act 2010 says everyone must be treated equally in the provision of goods and services. For a successful defence against any legal action under the act, the landlord would have to prove he had ejected heterosexual couples for similiarly overt displays of intimacy."

Looking forward to the landlord producing witnesses for THAT one!

[Mick-Talbot]

sp1814
Mick-Talbot

No evidence of that in the story





"she asked us to leave and i refused"

[morleyman]

Most people seem to be missing one main point here, the premises are the responsibility of the landlord or most likely these days the manager. Just because it is called a "public house" and we are the paying customers it does not give us the right to do what we want in the pub. If the staff are not happy with whatever is going on they are well within their rights to ask the "offenders" to leave.

[WatTyler]

sp1814 i have been in a town centre pub when a young lad and girl have been asked to leave for giving each other a few pecks on the cheek.
They had been asked to stop and then carried on so were asked to leave.

[Craftypig]

Two points, 1 weren't gay bars opened so that gay people had somewhere to go? 2 a previous partner an I were kissing in a gay bar one time and a one regular found it offensive because we were a straight couple, unless he was jealous of my girlfriend, lol....

[Mick-Talbot]

sp will ignore ^ that. like he ignored me saying i had witnessed it, like he ignored Fluffy saying she had actually told a couple to leave and ignored, China, saying she had seen it too.

[joggerjayne]

guys snog, girls snog, we all snog ...


Its better than arguing !!!!!!!

[mike11111]

"Two blokes kissing in public is offensive to the majority of normal people."

In my experience it is equally offensive to the majority of gay people. It does others no favours.

[askyourgran]

If it was done in my local they would probably get something thrown over them. It's mans drinking pub and most of the clientele in there wouldn't be able to cope with 'nancies'. I get fed up of hearing about these hysterical minorities. I'm not anti-gay, and I like to see people greeting one another with a quick peck, but two men? nah!