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A fatal mistake
With hindsight was Jo nieve in allowing Tabak, amost a complete stranger to enter her flat and will it send a warning to vulnerable people of the opposite sex?
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"Vulnerable people of the opposite sex". Do you mean girls or women who readily approach strange men Rov?
I go for a six mile walk every night at times ranging between 1am and 6am. I am astonished at the number of young girls (many of whom can't be more than 14 or 15) and women walking alone who approach me at that time of the morning. The last one was a girl of about 14 years old dressed in a miniskirt and high heels who crossed the road to say "'ave yer got a cigarette mate". It was 4.45am, the road was silent and there was no one else around! I just said I didn't smoke and kept walking. There are many other similar examples - quite a few say "'allo mate, can yer borrow me some money!" Quite a few of those girls have been drinking and many get abusive if I don't produce cigarettes or money which really upsets me when they insult me like that for no reason.
I'm not the type to attack women or take advantage of them but I quite understand how it happens. Of course, men can be blamed for attacking women and women have the right to walk the streets in safety - but there has to be common sense too. This generation of girls have to learn not to stagger round the streets in the early hours, not to approach strangers in the way they do and not give a strange man a stream of four-letter words if they aren't happy. Not only are individual men and women to blame for that, but it's society's failing too.
"Vulnerable people of the opposite sex". Do you mean girls or women who readily approach strange men Rov?
I go for a six mile walk every night at times ranging between 1am and 6am. I am astonished at the number of young girls (many of whom can't be more than 14 or 15) and women walking alone who approach me at that time of the morning. The last one was a girl of about 14 years old dressed in a miniskirt and high heels who crossed the road to say "'ave yer got a cigarette mate". It was 4.45am, the road was silent and there was no one else around! I just said I didn't smoke and kept walking. There are many other similar examples - quite a few say "'allo mate, can yer borrow me some money!" Quite a few of those girls have been drinking and many get abusive if I don't produce cigarettes or money which really upsets me when they insult me like that for no reason.
I'm not the type to attack women or take advantage of them but I quite understand how it happens. Of course, men can be blamed for attacking women and women have the right to walk the streets in safety - but there has to be common sense too. This generation of girls have to learn not to stagger round the streets in the early hours, not to approach strangers in the way they do and not give a strange man a stream of four-letter words if they aren't happy. Not only are individual men and women to blame for that, but it's society's failing too.
Hi Ummm,
It's always concerned me that they might start shouting or saying I had attacked them. There's uually no one else about and I just try to be polite and kep going. If I smoked I might give them a cigarette but I don't and I wouldn't hand over money. In fact, I've stopped going for my walk on Friday and Saturday nights now as being approached was a common occurance. I feel like spelling the dangers to them, especially the kids - but they'd probably just tell me to F off!
It's always concerned me that they might start shouting or saying I had attacked them. There's uually no one else about and I just try to be polite and kep going. If I smoked I might give them a cigarette but I don't and I wouldn't hand over money. In fact, I've stopped going for my walk on Friday and Saturday nights now as being approached was a common occurance. I feel like spelling the dangers to them, especially the kids - but they'd probably just tell me to F off!
'Sleeping over' maybe? When I saw five kids crash a car at 2am in Grimsby the police officer told me next day the girl was 13 and her mother thought she was sleeping over with a friend and would be in by 9pm! She lost her front teeth so maybe that taught her a lesson. The driver was 15 and the other three were 14.
Like I've said on AB before I often see groups of kids at Tesco at 3am. Decent parents like you Ummm (and me if I had any) would want to know the children were safe and not causing trouble, but I really think there are many parents who just don't care what their children are doing.
Like I've said on AB before I often see groups of kids at Tesco at 3am. Decent parents like you Ummm (and me if I had any) would want to know the children were safe and not causing trouble, but I really think there are many parents who just don't care what their children are doing.
I was going to reply word for word exactly what ladybirder said. We will always only have one version of events, those that belong to a convicted murderer. Poor Jo will never be able to tell us what truly happened. Although they were neighbours, it was always reported that they didn't know each other.
I used to have a large dog and used to take him down to the local park if I couldn't sleep. He was very protective and I felt safe - but there would always be some young girl walking alone across the park - or staggering with high heels - on her way home from the pub/nightclub. They would walk under a tunnel under the railway line. I think that the tunnel is creepy in the daylight so I can't understand why they thought it safe to use it at two in the morning.
Our town is relatively safe but there is no point taking unnecessary risks.
Our town is relatively safe but there is no point taking unnecessary risks.
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