Grayson Perry - Investiture Attire

[boxtops]

It's a lovely outfit - good for him, the Palace said it was "entirely appropriate". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/honours-list/10595005/Grayson-Perry-collects-CBE-in-Italian-mother-of-the-bride-outfit.html

[whiskeryron]

Does he/she actually hail from Trans-ylvania ?

WR.

[Slapshot]

..... and what feat to benefit the country did he do to be worthy of a CBE???

[gness]

How far back do you go for the tradition you want all to follow, Sqad? ...Andrew Aguecheek was a Sir so presumably knighted......in red stockings and cross garters?....☺

[Sqad]

gness...LOL...for God's sake don't give them any more ideas.

[jim360]

Presumably, he got the CBE for his services to art.

There is a fundamental difference between a "drag queen" and a transvestite. Drag queens are, usually but not always, meant to look very obviously like men in ridiculous dresses (rather close to the Panto Dame look). Transvestites just wear women's clothing in general and some even make an effort to pass off as regular bona fide women. To confuse the two is rather disrespectful, really.

[mikey4444]

Jim...I'm now very confused ! What category would this fit into then,
drag queen or transvestite ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1029931/Sir-Robin-Day-turn-grave-Cross-dresser-causes-fury-appearing-Question-Time-panel-Little-Bo-Peep.html

[FredPuli43]

Mikey, Perry is a transvestite. He is not 'Lily Savage' (Paul O'Grady) or Danny la Rue. He adopts the female name for his dressing in the particular way described in the link.

Can you tell us what you find wrong in his dressing like that? Please don't say "It is obvious" [i.e .what the reason is]. What is your reason for finding it objectionable or wrong? I don't find it so yet do not do so myself nor wish to do so, so explain what I am meant to have as a reason for objecting to it

[Sqad]

Fred..........you are making this into a "big deal."

When in the privacy of your own home, then dress and sexually perform the way you wish, but our complaint is, when attending a Royal Investiture, just conform, for those couple of hours, to traditional protocol.......just try eh!

[mikey4444]

Fred. I simply can't see the difference between O'Grady appearing as Lily Savage, and Grayson appearing on Question Time, as Little Bo Peep. Well perhaps I can see one difference...Lily Savage was wickedly funny, and Grayson isn't.

I have no doubt that Grayson is a marvelous potter, and he appears to be very erudite and interesting when he is on the Telly. He can dress any way he likes as far as I am concerned but I don't see why, if he is as talented as everybody on here says he is, he sees the needs to make a fool of himself when appearing in public. His art should speak for itself, rather than bellowing in the background, trying to make itself heard above the noise of his petticoats !

[mikey4444]

In answer to your last question, you can find something objectionable if you want to or not...its up to you. Its not compulsory. I am just giving my opinion, which I think I am entitled to do, and you can have yours !

Now isn't the planet big enough for the both of us ?

[gness]

Can't see that dressing to please yourself is being a fool but why should he dress to suit you, Mikey...or Sqad....in fact anyone else....I don't....do you?

Why is a man in a dress, suit or skirt bothering some of you so much? And I really am interested in the honest answer to that.

[gness]

What's normal, divebuddy? You? God help us.

[Sqad]

gness.......if you read our posts diligently, we are objecting to his dress at a Royal Investiture.

We are complaining that in our opinion it is disrespectful to Royalty................in our opinion.

Now, we do understand that you would happily go to dinner with a man dressed as "little bo-beep" and believe me gness......i think it might catch on.

[humbersloop]

If the outfit hadn't conformed to traditional protocol, he wouldn't have got within a mile of the place

[Mamyalynne]

Everyone makes fashion faux pas and if Grayson had attended the Palace in his Bo Peep outfit, I would have tutted - but he didn't. The outfit was tasteful and smart, not revealing and fitted the occasion well.

[mikey4444]

gness...honest answer coming up ( although I have already attempted this already ! )

I don't feel threatened in any way. How a chap dressed as Little Bo Peep could actually BE threatening is hard to imagine. I just think he looks silly.

Can't get anymore honest and simple as that I'm afraid gness ! If you like the way he dresses and I don't, is that such a big deal ? Really ?

[Sqad]

mamy

\\\\The outfit was tasteful and smart, not revealing and fitted the occasion well. \\\\

Quite....if he had been a woman, but from what i gather, he was male.

[sandyRoe]

The owners of Moss Bros will be quaking in their boots. If people can come as they like to investitures their business, of renting out sober morning coats, will be soon down the drain.