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Appears at court today but what of the charges he faces? The 'uniform' charge is bizarre to say the least. Short video in the link where Golding outlines the situation.
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mikey, the mosque is being built on a car park adjacent to the station, which is a key commuting point for workers in London. as well as the loss of that facility, the local council has arranged a deal with the train company for the mosque to block-buy nearly 80 spaces in their own car park. thus aside from the disruption of the building work itself, the resultant...
11:57 Sun 09th Nov 2014
ichkeria
/// Sorry to but in aog. I think your comment is revealing, because what's not to like about the phrase "Britain First" Look under the hood of that attractive title and you see something a little more sinister. An offshoot of the BNP founded by a NI loyalist, with Protestant fundamentalist views, which included slaying the odd Catholic or three. ///
Yes on the face of it not a very good curriculum vitae on the face of it, but before I condemn this person out of hand.
!/ "An off shoot of the BNP", the same could be said for all nationalist organisations, and when has it been a crime to be a nationalist?.
2/ "NI loyalist, with Protestant fundamentalist views", nothing untoward or threatening there, unless you are going to involve Northern Ireland's political problems into this.
3/ "which included slaying the odd Catholic or three", Has Paul Golding been accused and convicted of killing an odd catholic or three?
Well I have looked under the 'Hood' as you requested, now is there anything more threatening inside the 'Boot'?
/// Sorry to but in aog. I think your comment is revealing, because what's not to like about the phrase "Britain First" Look under the hood of that attractive title and you see something a little more sinister. An offshoot of the BNP founded by a NI loyalist, with Protestant fundamentalist views, which included slaying the odd Catholic or three. ///
Yes on the face of it not a very good curriculum vitae on the face of it, but before I condemn this person out of hand.
!/ "An off shoot of the BNP", the same could be said for all nationalist organisations, and when has it been a crime to be a nationalist?.
2/ "NI loyalist, with Protestant fundamentalist views", nothing untoward or threatening there, unless you are going to involve Northern Ireland's political problems into this.
3/ "which included slaying the odd Catholic or three", Has Paul Golding been accused and convicted of killing an odd catholic or three?
Well I have looked under the 'Hood' as you requested, now is there anything more threatening inside the 'Boot'?
The thing about all this is:
As I indicated before, just because Al Qaeda etc are what they are does not mean that an organisation like Britain First cannot be a bunch of racists and fascists.
Similarly, just because Britain First are what THEY undoubtedly are, does not mean they can't be technically correct in fingering certain people but that does NOT give them carte blanche (so to speak) to take the law into their own hands
It's possible for there to be well meaning people who misguidedly (think they) support them, and there undoubtedly are many of those: my contempt is especially for the organisers of that organisation who cynically play on people's fears for their own ends.
As I indicated before, just because Al Qaeda etc are what they are does not mean that an organisation like Britain First cannot be a bunch of racists and fascists.
Similarly, just because Britain First are what THEY undoubtedly are, does not mean they can't be technically correct in fingering certain people but that does NOT give them carte blanche (so to speak) to take the law into their own hands
It's possible for there to be well meaning people who misguidedly (think they) support them, and there undoubtedly are many of those: my contempt is especially for the organisers of that organisation who cynically play on people's fears for their own ends.
ichkeria
/// The thing about all this is:
As I indicated before, just because Al Qaeda etc are what they are does not mean that an organisation like Britain First cannot be a bunch of racists and fascists. ///
No that would be just silly, but first one has to prove that Britain First are a bunch of racists and fascists, one has first to ask would there be as much accusations flying around against these so called fascists and racist groups if the terrorists that they oppose were white?
/// Similarly, just because Britain First are what THEY undoubtedly are, does not mean they can't be technically correct in fingering certain people but that does NOT give them carte blanche (so to speak) to take the law into their own hands ///
Quite so, but if they know something sinister about a person or persons, they should highlight it, so that we are all aware of it, too many things are covered up in this country, all due to it might offend the sensitivities of certain groups.
/// The thing about all this is:
As I indicated before, just because Al Qaeda etc are what they are does not mean that an organisation like Britain First cannot be a bunch of racists and fascists. ///
No that would be just silly, but first one has to prove that Britain First are a bunch of racists and fascists, one has first to ask would there be as much accusations flying around against these so called fascists and racist groups if the terrorists that they oppose were white?
/// Similarly, just because Britain First are what THEY undoubtedly are, does not mean they can't be technically correct in fingering certain people but that does NOT give them carte blanche (so to speak) to take the law into their own hands ///
Quite so, but if they know something sinister about a person or persons, they should highlight it, so that we are all aware of it, too many things are covered up in this country, all due to it might offend the sensitivities of certain groups.
Ichkeria
///my contempt is especially for the organisers of the organisation who cynically play on people's fears for their own ends///
Tell that to the huge swathe of residents of Rochester who don't want another mosque. They have done so on their own volition and not influenced by the BF campaign.
///my contempt is especially for the organisers of the organisation who cynically play on people's fears for their own ends///
Tell that to the huge swathe of residents of Rochester who don't want another mosque. They have done so on their own volition and not influenced by the BF campaign.
agchristie
/// What do you think of the uniform issue? You can buy merchandise on the BF website and many march in whatever clothes they want! Laughable charge.... ///
Well what can one say? If you can't charge them for doing something illegal then charge them for something legal.
What constitute a uniform? if it is the fact that it carries a logo or a message, then all football goers could be charged for inciting opposing team supporters, or Mss Harman with the T-Shirt she wore in the commons.
/// What do you think of the uniform issue? You can buy merchandise on the BF website and many march in whatever clothes they want! Laughable charge.... ///
Well what can one say? If you can't charge them for doing something illegal then charge them for something legal.
What constitute a uniform? if it is the fact that it carries a logo or a message, then all football goers could be charged for inciting opposing team supporters, or Mss Harman with the T-Shirt she wore in the commons.
Well since some have chosen for reasons only known to themselves, not to supply me with the proof of Britain First's atrocities I went to the trouble to find what they stand for myself and I came across the following, but having read it, I can't find anything that scares me here.
PUTTING BRITISH SOLDIERS FIRST!
We support our troops and believe they should be given the best equipment, pay and living conditions - these men and women are heroes!
PUTTING BRITISH FAMILIES FIRST
We believe charity should start at home. The UK government blows over
£10 billion a year on foreign aid - when British families are struggling this is a
scandal!
PUTTING CHRISTIAN TRADITIONS FIRST
We will campaign against the erosion of our Christian traditions and heritage.
This is a Christian country and anyone who is offended by that should leave!
PUTTING ANIMAL WELFARE FIRST!
We say ‘NO’ to the brutal practice of Halal slaughter We are a nation of animal lovers and believe that the sale of Halal meat should be banned in the UK!
PUTTING BRITISH SOLDIERS FIRST!
We support our troops and believe they should be given the best equipment, pay and living conditions - these men and women are heroes!
PUTTING BRITISH FAMILIES FIRST
We believe charity should start at home. The UK government blows over
£10 billion a year on foreign aid - when British families are struggling this is a
scandal!
PUTTING CHRISTIAN TRADITIONS FIRST
We will campaign against the erosion of our Christian traditions and heritage.
This is a Christian country and anyone who is offended by that should leave!
PUTTING ANIMAL WELFARE FIRST!
We say ‘NO’ to the brutal practice of Halal slaughter We are a nation of animal lovers and believe that the sale of Halal meat should be banned in the UK!
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