Britain First - Paul Golding

[agchristie]

Appears at court today but what of the charges he faces? The 'uniform' charge is bizarre to say the least. Short video in the link where Golding outlines the situation.

https://www.britainfirst.org/video-britain-first-leader-paul-golding-speaks-essex-court-today/

[Zacs-Master]

(I feel a bit like Paxo now, but...)
I know what you said, and I gather from your 'I did not say it was ok' comment that you do not wholeheartedly support it but, you still haven't confirmed whether you think it was more or less disgraceful that the post office issue. Could you clarify?

[mushroom25]

//there is a wealth of difference between UKIP and Fascist organisations like BF, I can assure you. //

when did you change your tune? scroll through threads involving UKIP and time and again will pop up your definition of UKIP as being BNP-Lite.....

[agchristie]

AOG - welcome to the discussion, Im not sure how closely you have been following this from the start but you make a valid point.

Zacs, of course, Lee Rigby's name should not have been used and was more disgraceful.

I still stand by what I said that the Royal Mail have acted disgracefully in respect of the leaflet posted by ichkeria.

[Zacs-Master]

Thank you. That's quite reassuring. :-))

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

You earlier put "But I don;t want a self-rigtheous fascist 'outing' people for his own self-aggrandisement thank you - I prefer to leave illegal activities to the police to handle. They are trained in what they are doing, and can exercise due legal protest".

We often accuse peaceful Muslims of not 'outing' extreme Muslims in their midst.

Would you also rather leave it up to our police to carry out their investigations alone or encourage the help from these 'self-righteous' persons?

[agchristie]

AOG - Andy will speak for himself Im sure but he was concerned with the issue of vigilanteism but has this happened? No.

[anotheoldgit]

/// So in summary, Paul Golding is exposing someone who has not had a chance to clear his name via judicial means, and is not being afforded the principle of 'innocent until proven guilty'. ///

I didn't think I would ever read such words on AnswerBank, when some of it's members have been so quick in the past to condemn a vast number of persons, who have not yet been tried and convicted.

[Zacs-Master]

AOG If you read the very quite which you took from Andy's post he says that what he doesn't want to happen is him using it to promote his cause.

[agchristie]

Golding took the action as a matter of public interest not for his own ends Zacs.

[mushroom25]

//Anyone explain this very strange phenomenon? //

political correctness has reached a point where you could murder, and few will think any the worse of you for it. but dare to say something that others might constitute as racist and you deserve to be stoned, eviscerated and strung up from a very tall lamp post. and if you disagree with that standpoint you're just as racist as the original perpetrator and deserve the same treatment......

of course I exaggerate. but I'm sure you get the point.

[Zacs-Master]

I know he did Ag. It's not me you have to convince.

[agchristie]

Ok Zacs, Golding's legal team need to put a persuasive arguement forward in court - that is the crucial yardstick.

[Zacs-Master]

Yardstick for what?

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814
/// Blimey...

I'd best keep my nose clean. Hopefully I don't do anything to encourage the wrath of right wing pressure groups.

You never know who they might target next! ///

You have nothing to fear, unless you intend to do your country or it's people harm, but even then you will still retain your head, the worst you can expect is a self-rigtheous fascist 'ousting', or even being shouted and pointed at, according to mikey.

[agchristie]

What I meant Zacs was that the Court's verdict is the defining moment rather than people here trying to persuade anyone else.

[Zacs-Master]

Ah yes, a very interesting case which probably has the legal profession in a bit of a spin. Meetings in the home office as we speak and a spot of lunch in the Landsdowne after, no doubt.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// AOG If you read the very quite which you took from Andy's post he says that what he doesn't want to happen is him using it to promote his cause. ///

I know nothing of the 'Britain First' (except from their title which I wholeheartedly agree with). so perhaps either you or Andy can explain what their 'cause' actually is?

[Zacs-Master]

I wasn't entirely sure myself old bean so do you know what I did....I did a bit of very easy research and found out for myself.

[ichkeria]

"I know nothing of the 'Britain First' (except from their title which I wholeheartedly agree with). "

Sorry to but in aog. I think your comment is revealing, because what's not to like about the phrase "Britain First" Look under the hood of that attractive title and you see something a little more sinister. An offshoot of the BNP founded by a NI loyalist, with Protestant fundamentalist views, which included slaying the odd Catholic or three.

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// I wasn't entirely sure myself old bean so do you know what I did....I did a bit of very easy research and found out for myself. ///

Then perhaps you will save an 'old bean' some trouble of trawling Left-Wing sites, by sharing the results of your research with me, and I am sure it will be of interest to others.