The Same Outcry?

[B00]

Last week Fender posted a news story link regarding the abhorrent slaughter of animals in a Halal slaughterhouse.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1398161.html

Whilst the vast majority of us agreed that it was indeed terrible what the link showed, some of us tried to argue the fact that the cruelty involved had nothing to do with the fact that the perpetrators appeared to be muslim and that it does indeed happen in 'our own' abattoirs.

Sadly, evidence is now here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944609/Kicked-punched-hit-thrown-sickening-violence-inside-family-butchers-slaughterhouse-distressing-video-captured-campaigners-hidden-cameras.html

Will we hear the same outcry from some of our more vocal AB members? I hope so!

[Hypognosis]

Brenden, this thread is about a non-Muslim slaughterhouse and poses the question, will the outcry be the same? Did you not read the OP all the way to the end?

[Brenden]

Sorry mama and hypognosis, no I did not read it properly, truly barbaric. Of course it warrants the same outcry as an halal slaughterhouse.

[Snafu03]

Halal is cruel and so is this.

Halal is practised in the same disgusting way all over the world

The news report exposed a few sick individuals, hidden cameras acting on a tip off. We are not to fall into the trap of thinking this is the case in every slaughter house up and down the country.

[Canary42]

Still no comment from the Ab's favourite Islamophobe. Now there's a surprise.

[jourdain2]

That is appalling and the slaughterhouse should be shut until it can prove that it will obey humane practices. The rules for slaughterhouses need to be firmly applied (more inspectors?) so that all are humane. By definition I happen to think that non-stun is not humane, so that is included in those that should be closed until they comply. Been slackness in inspections I think.

[NoMercy]

Like Name I cannot bring myself to open the link.

Anyone committing acts of cruelty against any animal in any circumstances, regardless of religion, should face suitable punishment.

As for Halal slaughterhouses, no animal should suffer in the name of religion and it's high time the Government got a backbone and criminalised this cruel practice.

[NoMercy]

Naomi - sorry, dumbass phone

[ichkeria]

Is suffering in the name of religion any worse than suffering in the name of anything else?
Just a thought

[jno]

stunning mostly seems to involve shooting a four-inch bolt into the brain. This isn't how I'd choose to die myself; would anyone think it acceptable to treat, say, a cat that way?

[naomi24]

ichkeria, //Is suffering in the name of religion any worse than suffering in the name of anything else? //

No, but in the name of anything else - or indeed in the name of nothing at all - causing animals to suffer is illegal. Just another thought.

[ladybirder]

B00 the evidence has always been here that cruelty takes place in slaughterhouses. Do you remember Naz (Nomad?), he was posting horrific pictures on a thread of mine 5-6 years ago regarding cruelty in slaughterhouses and also on a different thread, pictures of cruelty to ex racehorses. As someone has already said (mamy?), it's the extra layer of cruelty by not stunning that makes Halal worse but we would be daft to think that everything happens by the book, all the time, in all slaughterhouses.

I condemn cruelty animals wherever it happens. Does anyone willingly work in a slaughterhouse I wonder? Who would want such a job? Does it attract a certain type of person who is impervious to an animal's suffering.

[anneasquith]

animals get killed for us, I doubt there is a 'nice' way to slaughter them. do you always eat free range eggs or battery reared ? are fish battered over the head to kill them ?

[jno]

my chippy usually waits till after they're dead to batter them, anne

[anneasquith]

jno............... not very fresh then !!! :)

[boxtops]

There was an interesting comparison to this on TV the other night, when the cook Dave Myers went to Egypt and attended a family feast. The goat was led calmly out of the house and slaughtered quickly and without any fuss, in front of everyone. That goat wasn't traumatised, they cared about it. A sad reflection on life when slaughter becomes a commercial operation and the beasts are just faceless numbers.

[ichkeria]

Stunning as pointed out is hardly humane. It is also the preferred method of halal slaughter in this country and many others.
Which does make you wonder what on earth the difference is between halal and anything else. Cruelty is cruelty full stop.
Let's have CCTV in all slaughterhouses and then we can all watch our dinner being prepared no matter our religion or lack of it

[ladybirder]

There isn't a 'nice' way anne but their suffering should be kept to a minimum.

[ladybirder]

jno I don't know if vets use a 4" bolt but a bullet in the brain is what happens to horses isn't it?