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Leave Vs. Remain
The EU Referendum is by a great distance, the most important vote that this generation has to decide...however...
Is anyone else absolutely bored to death with it?
Seriously - there's the rabid Brexit side and the mental Remainiacs...and they...just...won't...shut...up.
It's seems to have been going on for ages now...
It feels like the third hour of Eurovision when you've run out of Prosecco and Albania is on.
Am I alone in wanting it to be over and done with???
Is anyone else absolutely bored to death with it?
Seriously - there's the rabid Brexit side and the mental Remainiacs...and they...just...won't...shut...up.
It's seems to have been going on for ages now...
It feels like the third hour of Eurovision when you've run out of Prosecco and Albania is on.
Am I alone in wanting it to be over and done with???
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Just to clarify - this thread is neither in support of Leave or Remain...it's about Leave or Remain.
AB Editor...yes. I know what you're saying.
Lie-in King. Seriously, it's a great login name. And the best thing that could happen is a landslide one way or the other.
I am on the Remain side, and would welcome a landslide for Remain (70/30) or a landslide for Leave (70/30) - but I have a horrible feeling we are going to see 55/45...and that means whoever loses is going to spend the next eighteen months grizzling like a One Direction fan.
AB Editor...yes. I know what you're saying.
Lie-in King. Seriously, it's a great login name. And the best thing that could happen is a landslide one way or the other.
I am on the Remain side, and would welcome a landslide for Remain (70/30) or a landslide for Leave (70/30) - but I have a horrible feeling we are going to see 55/45...and that means whoever loses is going to spend the next eighteen months grizzling like a One Direction fan.
I think the referendum should have been announced on (say) the 1st of June and held on the 2nd. IMHO anybody who had not made up their mind by the time the vote was announced does not deserve to vote. It’s not as if the referendum was exactly a surprise. It is not like a general election where each of the parties tries to hoodwink the electorate into believing they are the greatest thing since sliced bread and will do them proud in the coming five years. The UK has been an EU member for more than forty years. People know whether they believe it is good or bad for them. They know the direction it is travelling and they know that all members – including the UK - will be locked in for the ride. Nothing said by supporters of either side will alter that.
I decided I would like the UK to leave the EU more than twenty years ago. My view was strengthened with the launch of the euro in 1999 and was made irreconcilable with the eastern expansion in 2004. I’m not campaigning in this question for a Leave vote. There are plenty of others available where I can do that. The question sp asked is about the turgidity and boredom of the campaigns. I quite agree. I am fed up with it. Those who crave for the facts will be disappointed. There will only be conjecture because nobody knows for certain what the future holds either in or out of the Union. “Experts” who are forecasting that we will all be £2,467.45 better or worse off in 2039 are the same experts who cannot tell us with any degree of certainty what a litre of diesel will cost next week. Nothing that any politician – or indeed anybody else - will say will alter my view which is that the EU does nothing for the UK that could not be achieved outside but it inflicts an awful lot of harm on the UK and many other member nations which we could all do without. And I formed that view without any campaign. Roll on 23rd !!!
I decided I would like the UK to leave the EU more than twenty years ago. My view was strengthened with the launch of the euro in 1999 and was made irreconcilable with the eastern expansion in 2004. I’m not campaigning in this question for a Leave vote. There are plenty of others available where I can do that. The question sp asked is about the turgidity and boredom of the campaigns. I quite agree. I am fed up with it. Those who crave for the facts will be disappointed. There will only be conjecture because nobody knows for certain what the future holds either in or out of the Union. “Experts” who are forecasting that we will all be £2,467.45 better or worse off in 2039 are the same experts who cannot tell us with any degree of certainty what a litre of diesel will cost next week. Nothing that any politician – or indeed anybody else - will say will alter my view which is that the EU does nothing for the UK that could not be achieved outside but it inflicts an awful lot of harm on the UK and many other member nations which we could all do without. And I formed that view without any campaign. Roll on 23rd !!!
"If some can't make their minds up then surely they should stick to the status quo."
Not a bad philosophy. Rather akin to "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
But many believe the EU is broke. However, more important than that is that there is no "status quo". The EU has changed beyond all recognition in the last 20 years. And it will changed beyond all recognition in the next 20. It has clear and stated aims and everybody knows in which direction it is heading. Those happy with the destination should vote to remain; those not so should vote to leave because one thing is for sure: the status quo is not an option on the referendum form.
Not a bad philosophy. Rather akin to "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
But many believe the EU is broke. However, more important than that is that there is no "status quo". The EU has changed beyond all recognition in the last 20 years. And it will changed beyond all recognition in the next 20. It has clear and stated aims and everybody knows in which direction it is heading. Those happy with the destination should vote to remain; those not so should vote to leave because one thing is for sure: the status quo is not an option on the referendum form.
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there have been incidents of near-violence/threatening behaviour from Brexiters in front of M&S down here these past few days and that ain't on in anybody's book. Whatever one's politics or opinion it's a disgrace.
That is perhaps another real issue in how divisive this has all been......how will the Government and society rebalance things?
That is perhaps another real issue in how divisive this has all been......how will the Government and society rebalance things?
