French Police Order Muslim Woman To Remove Her Burkini On Packed Nice Beach.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3754395/Wealthy-Algerian-promises-pay-penalty-Muslim-woman-fined-France-wearing-burkini.html

Whether or not one agrees with this, the woman should have known the law, just as a bikini wearing Western woman should know an Islamic country's laws.

[naomi24]

ag, indeed.

[andy-hughes]

AG - //Naomi > They'll do what they do regardless.

Just have to choose the right blend of tea for a nice productive chat. //

Once again Naomi takes a statement and makes out of it something that is not there at all, to suit her own agenda.

I did not suggest or indeed imply that Jihadists can be pacified, merely that they can be easily provoked,. and this action will not help.

If I had meant to bring up the subject of Jihadists being pacified, I would have done so - but I didn't. I am capable of saying what I wish to say without automatic and incorrect interpretations from others.

[agchristie]

Andy,they don't need to be pacified or provoked.Their mindset is such that they will do whatever they want irrespective of any influences...

[andy-hughes]

AG - //Andy,they don't need to be pacified or provoked.Their mindset is such that they will do whatever they want irrespective of any influences... //

That may be so, but it doesn't negate the point I made in either post - my view, or having it misunderstood for me.

[naomi24]

Andy-hughes, I haven’t written anything to suit any agenda. As I read your post you suggested that Jihadists are easily provoked and were warning against provoking them - so in effect placating them. No?

[andy-hughes]

No.

[naomi24]

OK. Confusion reigns then.

[ludwig]

Provocation is irrelevant to them. They already hate us and want to kill us, provocation or no.

[ludwig]

Provocation is irrelevant to them. They already hate us and want to kill us, provocation or no.

[andy-hughes]

Ludwig - //Provocation is irrelevant to them. They already hate us and want to kill us, provocation or no. //

I disagree.

Propaganda is the lifeblood of any terrorist organisation - it's the reason why they commit the atrocities they do.

No Jihadist organiser or leader is ever going to say ' I hate the West ... that's it ... no more to say.'

Any and all reasons they can give to stack up their argument that the west hates Islam and wants to destroy it is another reason to give to recruits they radicalise.

A perfect solution would be a new 'western outrage' every day - but this will do to be going in with - until the next one.

[ludwig]

They're murdering other muslims in the middle east andy - what 'western outrages' do you suppose those have committed to provoke the terrorists?

[naomi24]

Andy-hughes, they don’t need new reasons to hate the west nor more reasons to stack up their argument. Their hatred emanates from history and their purpose emanates from their literature. Nothing we do or say will change that in any way whatsoever.

[andy-hughes]

Ludwig - //They're murdering other muslims in the middle east andy - what 'western outrages' do you suppose those have committed to provoke the terrorists? //

None - but that is not what we are discussing, so it is irrelevant to the debate in my view.

[jambutty]

Excellent BA by the way aog.

[andy-hughes]

jambutty - //Excellent BA by the way aog. //

If you are referring to AOG's point about possible concealed weapons, I think you will find it is soundly trumped by the post that follows it!

[ludwig]

// None - but that is not what we are discussing, so it is irrelevant to the debate in my view. //

It's rather strange that you first raised it then.

[ludwig]

// None - but that is not what we are discussing, so it is irrelevant to the debate in my view. //

It's rather strange that you first raised it then.

[andy-hughes]

Ludwig - //// None - but that is not what we are discussing, so it is irrelevant to the debate in my view. //

It's rather strange that you first raised it then. //

Can you point out where I did that please?

[ludwig]

// Any and all reasons they can give to stack up their argument that the west hates Islam and wants to destroy it is another reason to give to recruits they radicalise.

A perfect solution would be a new 'western outrage' every day - but this will do to be going in with - until the next one. //

[ludwig]

// Any and all reasons they can give to stack up their argument that the west hates Islam and wants to destroy it is another reason to give to recruits they radicalise.

A perfect solution would be a new 'western outrage' every day - but this will do to be going in with - until the next one. //