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[Hymie]

The good news; we are all going to get a blue passport.

The bad news; we are going to war over Gibraltar.

This is what happens when countries fall out with each other – they squabble like children.

[naomi24]

kvalidir, of course I don’t ‘have’ to, which is just as well because I don’t.

[KARL]

I obviously don't order my priorities/importance the same way as others: Just how important is it to have a blue passport as opposed to any other colour ? I want my passport to work as a travel document without me thereby being assigned a stereotypical (and negative) connotation whenever people catch sight of it, that I am "one of those" - is the colour at all relevant unless it uniquely plonks you into a pigeon hole before the thing is even out of your hand and into someone else's for reading ?

[Khandro]

Karl; It isn't just about the colour, it's about having a passport which is British and nothing else.
My cheap solution would be to stamp a window 4 cm x 4mm in the cover removing the words 'European Union' and obliterate the same on page 1 (which is also in Welsh and Irish). Nowhere else does it mention the EU

[youngmafbog]

Just renewed mine but I'm more than happy to get anther when they become available. In fact I want one when they come out so I may have to 'loose' mine if they make you wait.

[Peter Pedant]

//I don’t see the relevance of referring to the Arabic name for Gibraltar. The Moors were kicked out of Spain centuries ago.//

um yeah - 1496 in fact - by los reyes catholicos - Ferdie and Isabella

un zay (the arabs) were there for 800 years give or take a lunar month

and so as cassa might say - by learning the history - we see the relevance....I would say relearning history but as usual in AB there isnt much evidence of a first contact.

oh and whilst I am at it
one of Ferdie and isabella's children really was Juana La loca
( Joanna the Mad) - sister of Catherine of Aragon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_of_Castile

[Jackdaw33]

I think that those of us who have dipped their toes into the waters of European mediaeval history will be quite familiar with Joanna the Mad.

[Peter Pedant]

Oh OK
I did History periods 5 and 6 - 1760-1914 UK only.
causes of the Great War but no battles
and we were told just about everyone else ( 1965) did

The hive did ( see above ) British Empire but perhaps not to the Hives advantage

when I was much older - The Wallace had a show of Clive's erm loot from India 1750-1800 - when Warren Hastings 1795 was accused of corruption he replied "My Lords I am amazed by my own forebearance!" There was a LOT of gold chasing of onyx which was done by 'cold annealing' on show - richly jewelled etc
and mentioned it to two other tourists who looked at me like I was a vampire bat or something come to settle at their breakfast table

and so i said - you do know the British were in India for 200 y ?
Eighteenth century history doesnt make much sense unless you do.

and he said (ter daah!) - "No, I did British History as applied to Ireland - and yes you are right it didnt make much sense ....."

and I kinda went like: you can do an O level in THAT ?

perhaps we are imprisoned and not liberated by our (past) experiences Jay Dee