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fine, take the learning lessons - but over the top on the boozometer - there aren't that many extenuating circumstances other than the machine being caput or wrongful procedure. Then, on the other hand, Ant isn't going to be condemned to death by some Wig with a black cap on......we've got past that one - and slave deportation too.
Talbot - // there can be no mitigating circumstances. //

And the Award for the most reasonable-compassionate-understanding- waiting-for-all-the-facts-recognising-that-things-are- not-as-black-and-white-as-the-media-makes-them-and-trial-by-media-is-a-very-very-bad-idea goes to ......
DT - // but over the top on the boozometer - there aren't that many extenuating circumstances other than the machine being caput or wrongful procedure. //

I don't think anyone is trying to say that Mr McPartlin is not going to be found guilty of driving over the limit.

I believe the essence of the discussion is around possible contributing circumstances involving his mental health and the state of mind he was in at the time.

In the midst of us theorising, I think one thing we can all safely agree on is that he is heading for a court case, a fine and a ban, and no-one is going to try and gainsay, or justify or excuse that.
I fully understand there may be extenuating circumstances but apart from the academic discussion of whether we feel sympathy or not it has no bearing on the outcome. The law is the law and he failed the test. Someone could have died as a direct result of his actions.
Prudie - that is absolutely not in dispute.

What is being offered is a situation in which this apparently reckless and selfish action ,may have been motivated by a mental condition, which as I have said, does not excuse the action, but does explain it.
Prudie - // I fully understand there may be extenuating circumstances ... //

Can you explain that concept to Talbot then!!
andy-hughes
Talbot - // there can be no mitigating circumstances. //

And the Award for the most reasonable-compassionate-understanding- waiting-for-all-the-facts-recognising-that-things-are- not-as-black-and-white-as-the-media-makes-them-and-trial-by-media-is-a-very-very-bad-idea goes to ......




Why thank but I can't take all the credit.
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1462864.html


Congratulations on the 'Hypocrite of the year' award.
andy-hughes
Prudie - // I fully understand there may be extenuating circumstances ... //

Can you explain that concept to Talbot then!!



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well if we are discussing post sentence, then yes....does he go to prison or are there extenuating circumstances to throw the book at him otherwise or reduce his penalties (to stone masonry perhaps - that comment if deliberately facetious.....)
The reports say he was held for over 10 hours at the police station after failing a breath test. The police are not allowed to release a person arrested for DD until they are back to being under the alcohol limit for driving. If it took over 10 hours for him to be back inside the 'legal limit' it is a pretty safe bet that he was more than 3x the limit when he was pulled over. I think that makes a prison sentence possible. His next show could be his own episode of 'Porridge'.
as this accident took place the afternoon following the night before..was he even aware that he was over the limit ? as I said pages ago.. I am sure many drivers are guilty of next day unwittingly driving and technically over the limit whilst not feeling so, or even displaying any signs..we do not yet know by how much he was over..being "drunk" and over the limit can be at times very difficult to perceive in oneself...or others..
Talbot - // Why thank but I can't take all the credit.
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1462864.html


Congratulations on the 'Hypocrite of the year' award. //

You actually remember something I posted THREE YEARS AGO!!!

I don't know whether to be flattered or scared that you pay such attention to what I say.

However, like everyone, I am actually entitled to change my mind in three years - I didn't sign my post in blood!!!


andy-hughes
We have debated the rights and wrongs of drink-driving many times, and my position remains as it has for as long as I have been driving - forty-five years and counting.

17:19 Sat 04th Mar 2017
Talbot... this is slightly creepy now.
Yes let's ignore andy's hypocrisy shall we.

I have an excellent memory and the search function on here (though not as good as it once was) is still good.
Talbot - I have already advised that like everyone else, I am entitled to adjust my view if I see fit.

I am not on trial here, I do not have to justify what I think and say to you, so as far as this thread is concerned, our exchange is now completed.

Please turn your attention to forensically storing someone else's points from years ago, I do not appreciate it.
I have just seen a clip on the news of him being put in the police car I think and he looked very worse for wear.

Talbot - // I have an excellent memory and the search function on here (though not as good as it once was) is still good. //

What a shame you can't find a better use for either / both than chasing me (and it is only me!) around the site for your own perverse amusement.
That wind is getting up, quite blustery actually.

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