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Migrants Entering Uk
Is there no way to send them back where they landed initially
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bainbrig, you should apologise to emmie for calling her a liar, however you have proved your point about people coming here not wishing to debate. here's your first contribution to this thread. "Diddly. The proportion is about 80% who don’t give a $h1t, 20% like you (and me) who do. I find it easiest to let the miseries have the run of threads like these, as you...
16:46 Sun 18th Nov 2018
And the same questions are never properly answered.
e.g. Why should they be helped here when they have crossed at least a dozen countries where they would be perfectly safe before reaching here? Why should this country be party to ignoring the UN Convention of the status of refugees (in particular Article 31 thereof)? Or is that convention merely for decoration only to be used when it suits migrants?
e.g. Why should they be helped here when they have crossed at least a dozen countries where they would be perfectly safe before reaching here? Why should this country be party to ignoring the UN Convention of the status of refugees (in particular Article 31 thereof)? Or is that convention merely for decoration only to be used when it suits migrants?
i guess some people will not be happy till our social safety net collapses, or is it already, europe becomes like the 1930's depression
mmm fine if you have a load of cash and can escape, or you live in a fortress community, or they could rough it and hope to fill their cup at the soup kitchens, and do not get ill either.
mmm fine if you have a load of cash and can escape, or you live in a fortress community, or they could rough it and hope to fill their cup at the soup kitchens, and do not get ill either.
There was an interview with an illegal migrant on TV a few years back. He had been sent back 6 times before he finally got in. I saw an official estimate a few years back. It said research shows an illegal migrant has only a 1 in 12 chance of being caught. So the one on TV must have been very unlucky.
I thought you only had refugee status when you crossed the first border into a safe country. After that you are an economic migrant . On that basis logically the only way people would come to the UK as genuine refugees is by air.
If as a country we set a number of refugees we can reasonably accommodate fine and fair. To do this needs infrastructure. Education and housing, support services. Which should be spread across the whole country so no one city has to carry the kind of load that results in the destruction of pre existing communities.
After that it should be a system of application from a safe country most likely France. All intending migrants who don't follow the system and just turn up should be returned. If they don't speak English or can be observed speaking in their own language their origin should be relatively identifiable. Returning them to the safest point if their own country is unsafe with the option of applying to come here legally should follow.
As we will possibly need additional workers in the post Brexit era there could well be places for those who want to become part of UK society.
In addition proper international efforts to provide suitable places of safety for genuine refugees near their point of leaving their homeland. would need more funding but would it cost more than dealing with them when they come here?
If as a country we set a number of refugees we can reasonably accommodate fine and fair. To do this needs infrastructure. Education and housing, support services. Which should be spread across the whole country so no one city has to carry the kind of load that results in the destruction of pre existing communities.
After that it should be a system of application from a safe country most likely France. All intending migrants who don't follow the system and just turn up should be returned. If they don't speak English or can be observed speaking in their own language their origin should be relatively identifiable. Returning them to the safest point if their own country is unsafe with the option of applying to come here legally should follow.
As we will possibly need additional workers in the post Brexit era there could well be places for those who want to become part of UK society.
In addition proper international efforts to provide suitable places of safety for genuine refugees near their point of leaving their homeland. would need more funding but would it cost more than dealing with them when they come here?
Jim, //What really will change things is working to make the lives of people better before they want to leave, rather than after they get here.//
Not exactly a practical solution to an urgent problem is it…. but that aside, as someone else said, who’s going to take control of it and who’s going to pay for it?
Not exactly a practical solution to an urgent problem is it…. but that aside, as someone else said, who’s going to take control of it and who’s going to pay for it?
