Tory Party Conference

[dannyk13]

MP's have just voted down a motion to adjourn for the Tory Party Conference.

[dannyk13]

Corby, no, but it will be choice between the conference and the HOC on a daily basis.

[THECORBYLOON]

The SNP MPs manage it.

[dannyk13]

They have nothing to fear from the Labour MP's taking advantage of them while they are weakened by MP's being absent.

[Gromit]

dannyk13

// Labour MP's taking advantage of them while they are weakened //

The Tories have a minus -42 majority. Labour, or anyone else can take advantage of them whenever they like, if they are in the Commons or not.

[ToraToraTora]

the VBQC have the numbers anyway, no point in attending, have the conference.

[THECORBYLOON]

The Shadow Leader of The House said yesterday that if there could be agreement with the Tories about upcoming business, Labour would vote for a recess.

After the motion was defeated, Rees-Mogg gave details of upcoming Parliamentary plans this Monday to Thursday.

The Shadow Leader said that this could have been agreed through "the usual channels" and the recess could have gone ahead.

It appears there was either no discussion about the business plans or if there was, it broke down.

[drmorgans]

So both sides are playing games?

[THECORBYLOON]

The Conference is going ahead still.

[ichkeria]

A bit petty?
Yes, but hardly surprising in the circumstances.
MPs will have to shuttle between London and Manchester. For other delegates (the vast majority) it will make no difference.
In any case the conference had already been sceneries down. I believe only a handful at best of cabinet ministers were down to speak.

[ichkeria]

“Scaled” down

[New Judge]

Actually, upon reflection, the Conference may go a little better in the absence of the "Honourable Members." The HoC will be barely affected because, as noted, the government has no majority there anyway and they might as well lose a division by a couple of hundred votes as by 42 (or whatever).

[gulliver1]

Thought we had the Tory Party, yesterday, in Parliament how many Parties do these Tories want, they even had their own Party Clown , think his name was Boris

[gulliver1]

Davebro 14.40 the oppos, as you call them ,are facing empty heads at the moment, what would change ?.

[jim360]

It has at least given time for Parliament to debate several pieces of secondary legislation related to Brexit, as well as the Domestic Violence Bill.

And, of course, the very fact that MPs can vote, and have voted, not to hold a recess puts paid to one of the great myths of the prorogation argument.

[fiction-factory]

So let's see if they vote against a recess for all future party conferences (Lab/Lib/SNP included)

[jim360]

Doesn't follow at all. Exceptional times tend to lead to exceptional circumstances.

[ToraToraTora]

that's rubbish jim, they failed to approve the recess out of spite alone. Any other time in history it would have been approved.

[THECORBYLOON]

If the Tories had accepted the offer made by the Shadow Leader of the House yesterday, the vote would have gone in their favour.

[ToraToraTora]

what did he offer?

[fiction-factory]

I really can't see how the Hof P can help resolve the Brexit issue at the moment even if it were to sit 24 hours a day for the next few weeks. After all the years and months of talking and the spate of indicative votes there is no consensus on anything other than 'ask for more time'. Until the EU and Boris's team can come up with a proposal or until the date for asking for an extension is reached I can't see what 'exceptional' things the HoC can sort out. By all means it's useful to discuss things like Domestic Violence but I don't see the 'exceptional times' argument at all. It's just spite and point scoring that led to the not unexpected decision not to allow a short recess