Freeeeeedom!

[ToraToraTora]

what else can I say........

[cassa333]

I got up for work this morning and guess what...

The Sky hadn’t fallen in, the stock market hadn’t crashed over night and I’m still a bit sleepy.

The next year will be a challenge for the government as they are not used to standing up to the EU but stand up to them they must.

So far the EU has played hard ball in trying to get only what is best for them (and who can blame them) but now, with a new government, we can play hard ball as well.

Come on Boris, don’t do a May and capitulate and cowtow to the EU. You know and the rest of us know they go in hard and give little of any meaning. Do the same. Be like Dr Who, Don’t blink, Don’t look away.

[emmie]

i think that this will be a hard year, but at least Boris has the backing of his government. I want to see us leave the end of the year with many of the issues sorted.

[MartinMillar]

The NHS will be in fantastic shape too as we will have 350 million a week extra now don’t we?
Oh, wait a minute......

[emmie]

that argument has been done to death and we don;t want to open it again.

[emmie]

we still will be paying to the EU, for the next 11 months, and presumably our exit payments.

[MartinMillar]

I am very sorry Ms Emmie I did not realise I needed permission to make such a comment.
Perhaps The editorial team would clarify that?

[emmie]

sorry i didn't mean you can't post on it, but there seems to be some misinformation about the bus.

[MartinMillar]

Seems clear enough

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[johnk]

POVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVERTY

[emmie]

poverty where?

[Old_Geezer]

The was, nor is, no misinformation on the bus. What happened was Europhiles, keen the sling mud in an effort to keep the UK shackled to the EU, continually claimed and pretended there was; despite the fact that anyone could read what was written and see it was all 100% accurate.

[Old_Geezer]

The transition period, although unfortunate as we could have been transitioning over the last 3 years, is at least something we have chosen to agree to. And it provides a second opportunity to celebrate leaving in a year's time. Benefits can start properly then.

[hereIam]

Wow birdie at 01.01, that was SO good that I haven't the words. Well done x

[Bobbisox1]

BIRDIE came back and boy did he deliver,
I’m in awe of that post, brilliant delivery

[emmie]

so it was. ^^

[barry1010]

Tambo @3:13 Surely the UK had as much power within the EU as the Germans? 29 votes each on policy making.

[jim360]

There is no meaningful sense in which Lineker, Geldof et al are the "rank-and-file", when they were so high-profile. I was talking, of course, about the millions of people who voted to remain who remain to this day anonymous, to most at least. They don't deserve the contempt that birdie so obviously shows. There is nothing brilliant in a delivery that repeats the same error he rightly chastises Geldof for, by writing off half of the voting public -- in this case not as racists, but perhaps as something more pernicious still. The sometimes unspoken but ugly, when it rears its head, sentiment, that a vote to stay in the EU was somehow anti-British. It was not. It remains not to this day.

How sad that such a divisive post gets the endorsement of so many. If we are to move forward as a nation then perhaps (ex-)Remainers need to understand why they lost, but also (ex-)Leavers ought to show a little more understanding in turn. Their victory was narrow enough that they cannot dismiss the voice for Remaining as some kind of blindness which only the enlightened were able to cast off.

[Bobbisox1]

^^^ but a victory non the less

[jim360]

Indeed. But if it were so clear-cut as birdie et al are making out it would have been crushing. That it wasn't should speak volumes. As it is, where is the empathy that Leavers chastise some on the Remain side for lacking? Where is the acknowledgement (here, at least) that there was a case to stay in the EU that was as honest, heartfelt and well-meaning as the case for Leaving?

[Togo]

I logged off early last night to have a reflective tipple and to talk with family and close friends about what was taking place. I had a snoop around this morning and a quick scan through the threads. I rarely read all the way through an old thread but I did on this one. Was I glad. If I hadn't I would have missed Birdie's brilliant post from 01.01. Wonderfully put, and every word a measured rapier thrust of truth. We salute you Birdie. The true voice of the silent majority.