Perhaps The Apologists For Mr Cummings ...

[sunny-dave]

... would like to find some excuse for this second breach of lockdown - after he was well and back at work - and when (presumably) the 'childcare' emergency was no longer valid reason?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dominic-cummings-ignored-coronavirus-lockdown-22075857

[Theland]

OK, pull out fingernails, or send him on a weekend trip with Corbyn. (That's very cruel.)

[New Judge]

//The Government has said Cummings was within the guidelines.//

The guidelines are not the issue. It is the law that has allegedly been broken. The law says that you must not leave home without a reasonable excuse. At the time the non-exhaustive list of reasonable excuses provided (and indeed the amended one in force now) did not include such a journey. The ultimate arbiters of such an argument would be a Magistrates' Court and I could not imagine any court accepting that his action was reasonable.

[Peter Pedant]

yeah OK - I understand that there are a fresh batch of allegation, squawks and howls of protest

but the usual suspects repeat themselves so much ( or so many times) that anything fresh is really dog-eared, repeated and well tried ( limp and soggy )

yeah British Rail sarnie springs to mind

[Peter Pedant]

// The guidelines are not the issue. It is the law that has allegedly been broken.//

no after 250 posts on two threads you can say confidently that it now isnt about anything
but the politicians and journos are having fun because there is no maff involved. - let the blaaarting go on !

[Theland]

I'll put my knitting down for a moment when he receives his just rewards, and shout, '' Yeeeeeeaaaghhhhh,'' then pick up my needles again.

[naomi24]

Cloverjo, Just an observation, but on the other thread you, quite rightly in my opinion, supported someone who'd broken lockdown to care for family - and none of the howling mob who made no bones about attacking me for saying that's the right thing to do disagreed with you. Not one of them. One could be forgiven for thinking that people who are instrumental in deciding the best course of action for the country lived charmed lives never encountering problems as the rest of us do. I should shoot him if I were you. I’ll hold your coat. How two faced you people are.

[andy-hughes]

It's not that Mr Cummings encountered problems Naomi, it's the cavalier disregard for the advice he helped to create in the way he dealt with those problems that is the issue.

[naomi24]

I know what the issue is thanks.

[Peter Pedant]

all this is a bit - - - febrile innit?

overblown, hot headed.... Cummings looking flushed
yeah flushed darn the loo

[Theland]

Cummings may have great advice for Boris on how to get the economy going, how to pay for the lockdown, how to deal with China, how to progress the EU trade talks .... but ..... we can't ask him, because he flouted a guidance rule.
Crazy!

[Deskdiary]

I'm wryly amused that people who break lockdown are utterly evil, UNLESS they do it, because of course they have a legitimate reason for doing so.

Lockdown breakers are bad...but I'm not because I needed to.

It's like a tax argument; it's only ever other people who don't pay enough tax.

Funny that.

[Mamyalynne]

If he goes and I'm in no way certain whether he should or not, then it will be to calm Public 'outrage', take the heat from Facebook furores and soothe Twitter storms.

Is that the right way for the Government to act?

I'm not sure it is.

[Deskdiary]

^^^exactly right.

If he goes it will simply be to sate the blood Bayers. They’ll be pleased as their righteous indignation will be satisfied, but at the end of the day what purpose does it serve to get rid of him?

[david small]

The sheer hypocrisy being demonstrated is nauseating.

[CrapAtCryptics]

I`m not apologising him but the idiotic and illegal behaviour by the paparazzi when filming him and his child was reckless and stupid. They were literally climbing over each other. There are enough stock pictures to make the whole exercise pointless.

[diddlydo]

Try reading this much better article:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/new-witnesses-cast-doubt-on-dominic-cummingss-lockdown-claims

[CrapAtCryptics]

Sorry diddly the Guardian et al havent published an unbiased article in several years. My point was the paparazzi behaviour.

[fiction-factory]

The Guardian article is very careful to use the term 'alleged'. One named witness claims to have seen him out near Durham on 12th April. Another witness, who wouldn't give her name, says she saw him on 19th April in Durham.
Besides, if his self isolation started on the 30th March (the day he travelled up) (could have been earlier if they had formed a bubble earlier) then maybe he felt the 14 days was up on the 12th April .

I think his position is pretty much untenable anyway but he's the sort to tough it out, but I think more evidence of a further breach will be needed than we have seen so far in the Guardian

[sp1814]

naomi24

You wrote:

//and none of the howling mob who made no bones about attacking me for saying that's the right thing//

Do you think that people disagreeing with you are a howling mob?

You were pretty much alone on your side of the argument by the end and that's because most people on the thread disagreed with you and put up arguments to support their point.

[Zacs-Master]

Gosh, Naomi, did you smoke a lot of weed when you were younger? Paranoia is a side effect, you know!

I warned you early on in the thread about arguing against the vast majority of others opinions but you didn’t listen. My advice would be to take a step back and see how your strange justifications appear to others.

Zacs-Master MoHM.