Covid Mortality Figures A Farce.

[retrocop]

If you are run over by a bus today and die and you tested positive for Covid 19 back in February then your death is reported as Covid related death by PHE. If this is true then it makes a mockery of almost anything our so called 'experts' are shovelling down our throats. It seems like spreading alarm and despondency for some sinister purpose.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/17/matt-hancock-calling-urgent-review-exaggerated-coronavirus-death-toll-13002134/?ito=push-notification&ci=23329&si=9444196

[allenlondon]

PP. One geezer you must like is Ben Goldacre, who spends his time debunking much non-scientific hokum in the news, e.g.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=ben+goldacre+bad+science&crid=OH13SOPRBIAJ&sprefix=ben+goldacre%2Caps%2C186&ref=nb_sb_ss_ac-a-p_1_12

which is on Kindle for £3. Well worth more.

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[Togo]

If you think that everybody who is, or has, been infected with the virus is going to eventually die...........why even bother waiting until they are dead? Just put em in the tally the day they test pos. Job Done. Project fear and control is on a roll.

[jim360]

//We don't massage our true corvid mortality rates like most other countries ,but no, we inflate them. //

There's something fairly wonderful in the sentiments behind this. Even when the excess mortality data, which simply counts actually dead people, shows the UK has had one of the worst excesses, it's *still* somehow because every other country is being dishonest, or only because we nobly tried to overcount, or some such.

Statistics are hard, especially data gathering in real time, and it's sadly inevitable that they won't be perfect, but that is no excuse for not even trying to gather them. Evidence is vital to understand what's going on as best we properly can.

[Peter Pedant]

JIm you have not given an opinion omthe excess mortality figures still exceed the whooped-up PHE covid figures

in which case the over-inflation needs a bit more gas

[I was gonna say in analysis it is called the squeeze theorem innit? [if f is always greater than g and goes to zero, g must go to zero too. too much detail]

[Peter Pedant]

// Statistics are hard, especially data gathering in real time,//
yeah but no but....

dead bodies are really easy to count - you kick them and they dont really move and you bury them and they dont protest

it is just what they died from and it has been known for god knows how long ( 100 y ?) death certs arent much good

er from cause of death - the DC is good for is he dead?

[TonyV]

Used to be a statistician, give me a set of figures and I will show what you want them to say.

[Peter Pedant]

the last economics minister of E germany
really did say
i never believe statistics unless I have had a chance to manipulate them myself

[TonyV]

True enough Peter.

[TonyV]

I just needed to do it to keep contracts. Director saw me do it and approved outcome.

[teacake44]

So lets say there is a 2% inflation of the death figures, is this really a good enough excuse for Matt Hancock to decide that they will pause the daily figurers, or just an excuse for him to hide them all, because they have become embarrassing to the government?