What Shud Boris Do Now?

[agchristie]

If the ministerial code is broken how serious should the consequences be in this case?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55010929

The code says "harassing, bullying or other inappropriate or discriminating behaviour" will not be tolerated.

It adds that ministers are "personally responsible" for how they act - and that they can stay in office "for so long as they retain the confidence of the prime minister".

[agchristie]

There certainly were occasions Danny but getting the job done efficiently wasnt helped by the shouty approach.

People were taken aside for a quiet word and not blasted,disrespectfully in front of others.

[dannyk13]

agc //
People were taken aside for a quiet word//
If that workd then fair enough, but if it doesn't what then?

[agchristie]

If someone wasnt up to the job then the HR department wud be called in under the 'Capability Procedure'.

[Jackdaw33]

Very good point, Togo. If Priti had been a muslim it might have been a different story.

[gulliver1]

Well if Priti is a Brexiteer all the more reason to,
Get Rid.

[ichkeria]

Barking mad as nearly always.
It takes some genius to make “the prittster” the victim here

[Jackdaw33]

^^Mega yawn.

[jim360]

There's no sense in blaming the Home Office, which may well be in need of reform, when the bullying allegations against Patel have been made across her entire Ministerial career. It's only come to a head in recent months, but it's been a part of her character and approach for years.

As to the idea that shouting and swearing is ever acceptable -- it is not. If people cannot tell the difference between assertiveness and aggressiveness then that is their problem, not the problem of their staff.

[jim360]

It should also be noted that Sir Philip Rutnam, who was the Permanent Secretary whose resignation sparked all this, has contradicted the suggestion in the report that Patel was never made aware of her behaviour. More details will no doubt come out in the future when his claim of constructive dismissal is heard, but the implication that he was never consulted in the enquiry should make people, at the very least, realise that this is far from over.

Patel is still in her job for political reasons. If the PM had any sense of decency he'd have sacked her. And if she was still regarded as important and popular, then, fine, let politics win eventually by returning her to a (more junior) ministerial role in a few months, but send a message that the behaviour is unacceptable by sacking her before that.

[Peter Pedant]

I wanna hear it for Boris and Priti
altho I am a remainer myself I have no doubt it was about Brexitty stuff and Sir Humphrey basically had the view of " I really dont agree with this" and dragged his feet

suppose SIr Humphrey didnt agree with something else - perhaps vaccines in the MiniHealth - there wouldnt be all this fol de rol would there ?

or SIt Humphrey didnt think covid was real - and there wasnt anyone dead ( you know like dear NJ on AB) so he had nt drawn up plans for the hospitals

no one wd be saying - o yes yes sir Humpy has his views and they must be respected

let us hear it for Priti

[drmorgans]

So you think Pretty said, “Oh dear, you are dragging your feet a little, please get on with it”? As opposed to “You effing useless fat count, get your effing lard *** into gear and get an effing move on, you effing dumbass lump of sheet” ;-)

[Theland]

Pritti Patel gets my vote for being a tough cookie.
The civil servants are a law unto themselves it seems.
In the 1960's, Tony Benn was Postmaster General, and complained bitterly about his civil servants running things their way rather than his.
''Yes Minister,'' springs to mind, but Pritti Patel is having none of it.
https://youtu.be/_OtW00w88pE (10mins)

[andy-hughes]

Theland - //
Pritti Patel gets my vote for being a tough cookie. //

Being a 'tough cookie' is akin to 'believng in plain speaking' - it's not an excuse to bully people because you have strong opinions and a big mouth to convey them to the world with.