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Why All The Hysterics?

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ToraToraTora | 08:05 Sat 16th Jul 2022 | News
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https://news.sky.com/story/uk-heatwave-could-put-peoples-lives-at-risk-met-office-warns-as-national-emergency-declared-12652877
It's hot so what? gawd there are counties in the world that are like this every day, they don't close schools and have national emergency. Same when it snows, why are we so carp at weather? I never had a day off school for weather, ever and I was at school in 1976.
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//…and it is almost certainly due to climate change.// No it’s not. It’s due to something called “weather.” An area of low pressure is forming over the Azores in the Atlantic, to the south-west of the British Isles. Air flows anti-clockwise round low-pressure systems so the wind will flow around the low-pressure system from north Africa and the Iberian...
10:39 Sat 16th Jul 2022
Well obviously, untitled, it made Tora the balanced, well-rounded individual he is today. :-)
all of the ten hottest years ever recorded in the UK have been since 2002....

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2019/state-of-the-uk-climate-2018

bit of a problem this... But then we have golden oldies who fondly remember much weaker heatwaves from their youth in which hundreds of people still died insisting we "just get on with it"... lol.
is it me or does the selection of new Tory prime ministers seem to correlate very strongly with roasting hot weather?

it's almost like we're all in hell :)
I’m inclined to agree a bit with Tora here: russian terrorism in Ukraine, political upheaval at home and the evening news headline; “It’s going be be very hot for a couple of days next week”.
There’ll be a BBC “live” coverage on Monday you may be sure.
Having said that I’m glad our son’s D of E expedition has been postponed to autumn.
(Pretty hot for the All Blacks in Wellington - wahaay!!!)
When I worked in Albania all shops opened very early - most at 6.30/7.00 am and the kids went to school then too. Everything closed down from 1 - 3 pm in the midday heat then opened again until late.
The main cause for concern should be fires. We have no burning rules here from mid May. The recent Algarve fire was caused by arson. The guy has handed himself in to the police. Now no electric or metal machinery allowed to operate in any outdoor area. No picnics or barbecues in any nature reserve or common ground. No wild camping. All motor homes etc being moved to designated sites. It is thought that the majority of the fires in the north were caused by cigarettes or broken glass igniting. 2 are thought to be arson. School has always ended here the last week of June.
gulliver, your comment at 09-15 worried me a little but then the comment at 09-54 reassured me you were OK.
When I was at school they could stay open because nearly all the staff and pupils lived within walking distance; the caretaker lived on-site.
Times have changed.
I think the answer is quite simple. In the winter we have the wrong snow so in summer it must be the wrong heat.
We're just not geared up to extreme weather at either end of the spectrum so when it happens special measures have to be put into operation.
Yesterday was St Swithin's Day. Isn't there an old saying about what happens after that?
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//gawd there having a cobra meeting now!//

Well I guess there’s a reason why they’re having one?
Surprised that nobody pointed out to you that maybe this is typical of a Tory government, panic and overreacting when the heat is on? Lol.
Well I never imagined you could surprise me, TTT but you have with this post.
Are you aware of the Met Office Heat Health Alert? Put in place to protect those with asthma, COPD, cancer and many heart conditions which can be fatal in extreme heat. This is also used to advise all health care workers to be extra vigilant regarding lone or elderly people during a period of extreme weather. This is a bad thing? Hysteria?

Folk still leave children and dogs in cars and return to find them dead.

There are countries who routinely have weather like this. Have you seen what can happen even in those countries...read about Pakistan over the last few years? The recorded deaths caused by the heat?

Why use the word hysterics? Nobody, apart from you, is getting hysterical.
Unfortunately there are those who's logic leaves a lot to be desired so need to be guided. Not drinking enough fluids (non-alcoholic obvs), not providing children with adequate protection, leaving pets in hot cars, being out in the sun too long, not using sunscreen, hats etc....that sort of thing.

And I guess the government are covering their backs regarding workplaces and schools and also the pressure on the NHS with heat related emergencies.
//Not drinking enough fluids (non-alcoholic obvs)//
there's always a catch
When 2 Englishmen meet their first talk is always about the weather.
//…and it is almost certainly due to climate change.//

No it’s not. It’s due to something called “weather.” An area of low pressure is forming over the Azores in the Atlantic, to the south-west of the British Isles. Air flows anti-clockwise round low-pressure systems so the wind will flow around the low-pressure system from north Africa and the Iberian peninsula (where it is very hot at this time of year) towards France and the British Isles. Coupled with this, the jet stream (a stream of high velocity wind that flows from west to east across the Atlantic is quite far to the north. The jet stream varies in latitude and is usually to the north of the UK in the summer. Explained here:

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/learn-about/weather/types-of-weather/wind/what-is-the-jet-stream

The jet stream plays a big part in the weather in northern Europe and when it is to the north that influence is smaller (that’s why the weather is usually more settled in the Summer.

This hot spell (caused by the above) is due to last two days. By Wednesday it will be cooler (though still pleasantly warm). The “State of Emergency” can then be lifted and we will no longer need the government to advise us to stay in the shade, keep the curtains drawn and drink plenty of water. Glad they did that as I would never have thought of doing any of those things. I'd actually planned to spend Monday and Tuesday stripped to the waist, digging my garden, with only an espresso coffee now and then for liquid intake.

Governments seem to have a habit in recent times of instilling fear and terror into the population. They see it as “caring”. Instead it largely consists of advising them of the Bleedin’ Obvious and it clear from this thread that many people lap it up. In fact I’m surprised there isn’t a Minister for it. What they hope to achieve in their “Cobra” meeting is anybody’s guess. But one thing’s for sure – by the time they decide what to do and devise an “action plan” to do it, it will be raining.
I don’t think it’s anything to do with ‘caring’. The govt are covering their ‘arrises so that people can’t cry ‘you didn’t warn us!’
Whilst the mechanics of why it occurs now and here is more about weather dynamics, the ever increasing incidents of such extremes will be down to changing climate
UNTITLED, it's actually eight as your link considered hottest days only from 2002.

This link shows the top ten.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/uks-hottest-days-how-heatwave-24464420.amp

Either way, it appears to indicate a trend toward higher temperatures.

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