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Albanian Migrants
All migrants whether legal or illegal will eventually have to be housed and later when they have imported their bride there will be family members coming and overstaying.
We are unable to build housing to meet the needs of British citizens and now have the constant flow of extra people to accommodate. Already there is talk of 'reviewing' the Green Belt. So much for England's Green & pleasant Land
We are unable to build housing to meet the needs of British citizens and now have the constant flow of extra people to accommodate. Already there is talk of 'reviewing' the Green Belt. So much for England's Green & pleasant Land
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//The Conservatives have been in power for 12 years, and have a huge 76 majority.
Yet their utter failure is the oppositions fault//
Interesting ... are you suggesting that if(god forbid) labour were somehow elected, then the left wing lawyers and civil serpents would allow them to implement measures to deport the illegal invaders and to prevent any more from arriving?
Yet their utter failure is the oppositions fault//
Interesting ... are you suggesting that if(god forbid) labour were somehow elected, then the left wing lawyers and civil serpents would allow them to implement measures to deport the illegal invaders and to prevent any more from arriving?
//Why should residents in one small section of the world be entitled to a "green and pleasant land" while other citizens of the world face hunger, fear and threat to their lives?//
Because the ancestors of the people currently living in this particular small section of the world which is still reasonably green and pleasant (for the moment) worked hard to make it a better place for their descendants. That’s what people in this part of the world do. Current thinking in some quarters seems to suggest that the fruits of those labours should be shared with anybody who happens to pitch up here who doesn’t like it too much where they were. The end result of that strategy sees the green and pleasant parts of the world degenerate into the same state as the cess pits those others came from.
//It [the Rwanda plan] was always a stupid gimmick, and it is sad that many of you have fallen for it. :-( //
I never fell for it one iota. Have a look at this question:
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Take a glance at my reply at 11:29 on 26th July:
//…the Rwanda plan is a farce. If (a very big “if”) any are sent there the numbers will barely scratch the surface of the problem. It is not a deterrent because, as already demonstrated, the chances of any migrants being sent there are as close to zero as can be imagined. …
As I keep repeating, once here the chances of any migrant being removed is absolutely minimal and even then there is nothing to prevent them repeating the process. The only way to deal with the problem is to forcibly prevent them from landing.//
And the chances of that force being used is equally minimal. There is no political will from any quarter for it. Instead successive governments are more content to see the resources of this country plundered by people who have contributed nothing and are very unlikely ever to do so. They would prefer instead to feed and house them (current bill £7m a DAY - £2billion each year and that's just the initial costs whilst they "find their feet") rather than keep them out. This is not a party issue – no political party likely to gain power has any plans other than to manage the influx as best they can, spending stupendous amounts of taxpayers’ money which could – and should – be spent on those who are here legally. The opposition (whoever they are) always talks a good talk but nobody here will do anything differently, whatever colour rosette they wear.
Because the ancestors of the people currently living in this particular small section of the world which is still reasonably green and pleasant (for the moment) worked hard to make it a better place for their descendants. That’s what people in this part of the world do. Current thinking in some quarters seems to suggest that the fruits of those labours should be shared with anybody who happens to pitch up here who doesn’t like it too much where they were. The end result of that strategy sees the green and pleasant parts of the world degenerate into the same state as the cess pits those others came from.
//It [the Rwanda plan] was always a stupid gimmick, and it is sad that many of you have fallen for it. :-( //
I never fell for it one iota. Have a look at this question:
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Take a glance at my reply at 11:29 on 26th July:
//…the Rwanda plan is a farce. If (a very big “if”) any are sent there the numbers will barely scratch the surface of the problem. It is not a deterrent because, as already demonstrated, the chances of any migrants being sent there are as close to zero as can be imagined. …
As I keep repeating, once here the chances of any migrant being removed is absolutely minimal and even then there is nothing to prevent them repeating the process. The only way to deal with the problem is to forcibly prevent them from landing.//
And the chances of that force being used is equally minimal. There is no political will from any quarter for it. Instead successive governments are more content to see the resources of this country plundered by people who have contributed nothing and are very unlikely ever to do so. They would prefer instead to feed and house them (current bill £7m a DAY - £2billion each year and that's just the initial costs whilst they "find their feet") rather than keep them out. This is not a party issue – no political party likely to gain power has any plans other than to manage the influx as best they can, spending stupendous amounts of taxpayers’ money which could – and should – be spent on those who are here legally. The opposition (whoever they are) always talks a good talk but nobody here will do anything differently, whatever colour rosette they wear.
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// the left wing lawyers and civil serpents would allow them to implement measures to deport the illegal invaders and to prevent any more from arriving? //
Everyone else's fault but the Governments. If civil servants aren’t doing their jobs, replace them. If the Government follow the law, then lawyers cannot defeat them.
Desperate and utter pathetic excuses for utter failure.
// the left wing lawyers and civil serpents would allow them to implement measures to deport the illegal invaders and to prevent any more from arriving? //
Everyone else's fault but the Governments. If civil servants aren’t doing their jobs, replace them. If the Government follow the law, then lawyers cannot defeat them.
Desperate and utter pathetic excuses for utter failure.
No fan of uncontrolled immigration but what has recently happened in Paignton (pop 43,000) is indicative of mainstream attitudes. A seafront hotel has opened its doors to 129 people who have been variously described in the local Press as 'illegal immigrants'. In fact they're asylum seekers, resettled from the ghastly detention centres, and asylum seekers. There have been reactions from local politicians that thus will 'destroy' the resort. Would have thought that 129 drunk skinheads on holiday would cause more distress. But I was truly shocked when some people of Indian heritage, who I know, passed by my local pub today and a friend said: "There they go. F-ing scroungers'. Sad and I was a shocked.
No need to house Albanians on Britain's green belt, they can go into the prisons; Albanian Foreign National Offenders (FNOs) make up the largest cohort of FNOs, with 1,462 Albanians in prison in England and Wales, that was as at 30th December 2021, with the recent criminal additions, its probably twice that now.
Priti Patel had the not so brilliant idea of bring over Albanian policemen to vet them, but forgot that once the police were ensconced on British soil, they would remain as immigrants themselves!
Priti Patel had the not so brilliant idea of bring over Albanian policemen to vet them, but forgot that once the police were ensconced on British soil, they would remain as immigrants themselves!