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Come on get a grip!
Who are these people complaining about what Prince Harry said in the video?
**** is just short for for a person from Pakistan the same as Brit is short for a person from Britain and nobody gets pulled up for saying that!
Rag head!!!!!!!! Come on this is a term for people Killing our soldiers, Who cares if we affend them and soldiers have always had nick names for the ones they were fighting.
And swearing how dare he!!
What Planet are these people off?
This is the mallenium, people swear all the time.
I defy any one who says they would'nt swear while in a war zone and constantly looking over their shoulder.
Who are these people complaining about what Prince Harry said in the video?
**** is just short for for a person from Pakistan the same as Brit is short for a person from Britain and nobody gets pulled up for saying that!
Rag head!!!!!!!! Come on this is a term for people Killing our soldiers, Who cares if we affend them and soldiers have always had nick names for the ones they were fighting.
And swearing how dare he!!
What Planet are these people off?
This is the mallenium, people swear all the time.
I defy any one who says they would'nt swear while in a war zone and constantly looking over their shoulder.
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The thread seems to have fragmented into two separate strands -
a) is the use of this language offensive?
b) is it any more or less of any issue because Prince Harry said it?
My stance is that - yes, it is offensive. A cornerstone of the laws regarding racism and bullying in the workplace centres around the fact of how the remark is received, not how it was intended - ergo, because it was meant in an 'affectionate' way does not diminish the impact.
Secondly - it is an issue because Harry said it, because he is Prince Harry.
It is naiive in the extreme to imagine that because PH serves with soldiers that he becomes 'one of the lads' - even though that would be an ideal scenario it is simply not going to happen.
Harry needs to accept that because of who he is, his life will be scrutinsed, along with everything he ever says, whereever he is, and that the press will make a meal of any perceived indiscretion. For this reason, he must think before he ever opens his mouth, or acts in ay way.
He is a member of the Royal Family. He is never going to be an 'ordinary bloke' and cannot be permitted to try and behave like one. Sad, but a fact.
It's the price he pays for the seriously priveliged life he leads, which the rest of his comrades can only dream of.
If that price means behaving like the officer and gentleman he is supposed to be, then I would consider it worthwhile.
Since Harry lacks the matruity to work this out for himself - maybe any one of the vast numbers of staff that bow to his every whim could have a quiet word in his royal shell-like.
The thread seems to have fragmented into two separate strands -
a) is the use of this language offensive?
b) is it any more or less of any issue because Prince Harry said it?
My stance is that - yes, it is offensive. A cornerstone of the laws regarding racism and bullying in the workplace centres around the fact of how the remark is received, not how it was intended - ergo, because it was meant in an 'affectionate' way does not diminish the impact.
Secondly - it is an issue because Harry said it, because he is Prince Harry.
It is naiive in the extreme to imagine that because PH serves with soldiers that he becomes 'one of the lads' - even though that would be an ideal scenario it is simply not going to happen.
Harry needs to accept that because of who he is, his life will be scrutinsed, along with everything he ever says, whereever he is, and that the press will make a meal of any perceived indiscretion. For this reason, he must think before he ever opens his mouth, or acts in ay way.
He is a member of the Royal Family. He is never going to be an 'ordinary bloke' and cannot be permitted to try and behave like one. Sad, but a fact.
It's the price he pays for the seriously priveliged life he leads, which the rest of his comrades can only dream of.
If that price means behaving like the officer and gentleman he is supposed to be, then I would consider it worthwhile.
Since Harry lacks the matruity to work this out for himself - maybe any one of the vast numbers of staff that bow to his every whim could have a quiet word in his royal shell-like.
Perhaps the young chap had the good sense to disassociate himself from the condescending royal halfwit (of questionable birth).
And sp1814 dares to even post on the subject of 'being offensive'. But no, he then goes on with this little snipet,
But I simply wouldn't use the word 'Pak1' because I find it offensive,>/i>
How hypocritical can a person be?
How offensive as he been to Prince Harry?
Incidently it was interesting to notice that sp1814 was allowed to get away with using the 'N' word, without it being censored.
Is it because he is in fact Black?
'Niger' is latin for Black, so would it be ok to leave one 'G' out of the word 'N****r' when referring to a Black person?
And sp1814 dares to even post on the subject of 'being offensive'. But no, he then goes on with this little snipet,
But I simply wouldn't use the word 'Pak1' because I find it offensive,>/i>
How hypocritical can a person be?
How offensive as he been to Prince Harry?
Incidently it was interesting to notice that sp1814 was allowed to get away with using the 'N' word, without it being censored.
Is it because he is in fact Black?
'Niger' is latin for Black, so would it be ok to leave one 'G' out of the word 'N****r' when referring to a Black person?
Andy, this happened three years ago - I do think that Harry has matured enormously since then and realises he has to keep his mouth shut.
He was a very young man trying hard to be considered normal by his friends and colleagues in order that they would be comfortable with him and accept him - not an easy task! He was lacking in experience in that he did not probably consider this private video would get into the wrong hands.
If he had remained more aloof and not joined in with his mates, then he would have been criticised for that - he couldn't win.
He will have learned by now and sadly had to accept that he can never lead a normal life.
He was a very young man trying hard to be considered normal by his friends and colleagues in order that they would be comfortable with him and accept him - not an easy task! He was lacking in experience in that he did not probably consider this private video would get into the wrong hands.
If he had remained more aloof and not joined in with his mates, then he would have been criticised for that - he couldn't win.
He will have learned by now and sadly had to accept that he can never lead a normal life.
Well, there are a fair few mealy-mouthed apologists knocking around today.
Let's drop the false surprise though. Everyone on this site knows the significance that the P-word has. They know full well it's considered a racial slur. We all know that. Prince Harry knows that. The media knows that. It's insuting to everyone's intelligence to feign innocence and pretend we thought it's nothing more than a friendly abbreviation.
This tortuous attempt to align the P-word with the words 'Brit' or 'gingernut' is embarrassing. Spend a few seconds thinking about the historical use of the P-word and the N-word and the treatment that's been dished out alongside them. When we see ginger people being lynched for their hair colour, get back to me.
And as affectionate as Harry may be towards this lad, bandying the terms around perpetuates their usage and means that they're further from dying out. Which is fine unless you're being singled out at work for laughs or your children are running home from school to avoid the taunts. Of course, you might not care about that - you might be a tw*t.
Let's drop the false surprise though. Everyone on this site knows the significance that the P-word has. They know full well it's considered a racial slur. We all know that. Prince Harry knows that. The media knows that. It's insuting to everyone's intelligence to feign innocence and pretend we thought it's nothing more than a friendly abbreviation.
This tortuous attempt to align the P-word with the words 'Brit' or 'gingernut' is embarrassing. Spend a few seconds thinking about the historical use of the P-word and the N-word and the treatment that's been dished out alongside them. When we see ginger people being lynched for their hair colour, get back to me.
And as affectionate as Harry may be towards this lad, bandying the terms around perpetuates their usage and means that they're further from dying out. Which is fine unless you're being singled out at work for laughs or your children are running home from school to avoid the taunts. Of course, you might not care about that - you might be a tw*t.
People of all races, creeds, colours, localities are always going to be singled out for laughs and taunts. It's a part of life, especially school life. It is never going to stop completely. Of course it would be nice if we lived in a world where there were never any harsh words spoken or any offensive names existing. But we are never going to.
But let's keep things in proportion?
But let's keep things in proportion?
Ok - I can concede to that.
I'm not suggesting we shrug off racist remarks or tolerate maliciously said remarks & taunts - I just think in this particular instance the news of the world/daily mail should have just left alone - it was 3 years ago & I am sure there are far worse things said amongst the soldiers themselves, without them getting all worked up about it.
I'm not suggesting we shrug off racist remarks or tolerate maliciously said remarks & taunts - I just think in this particular instance the news of the world/daily mail should have just left alone - it was 3 years ago & I am sure there are far worse things said amongst the soldiers themselves, without them getting all worked up about it.
HatlessJack
Not everyone's the same though. You might not find it insulting, but I'm sure that there are many who would find it offensive.
I suppose I may be a little naive here, because I have never (knowingly) met anyone who would use racist/sexist/homophobic language. I literally don't see the point of associating with anyone like that.
Not everyone's the same though. You might not find it insulting, but I'm sure that there are many who would find it offensive.
I suppose I may be a little naive here, because I have never (knowingly) met anyone who would use racist/sexist/homophobic language. I literally don't see the point of associating with anyone like that.
