Wy Do You Hate Vegans? Vegan Here... Ask Me Anything :)

[divegirl]

I love this site... have been a member for far too long lol

I rarely post but am always here and as a vegan I am basically gobsmacked at times at peoples attitude towards my lifestyle choice and yes it is a choice. As is yours.

BUT [from the Vegan Society]

Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.

At 47 years of age [50 this year] I adopted the Vegan lifestyle because I became aware of the apathy and my own jaded sense of what is right and wrong. Right to kill a pig... but not a dog? blah blah blah

Have you ever watched any documentaries concerning veganism? Earthlings? Cowspiracy? What the health?

Do you know what cognitive dissonance is?

I'm not posting this to be confrontational, I am truley interested in what people think :)

Lisa x

[mushroom25]

//It seems strange that railway catering succumbs to minority demands but cannot cater properly for the majority//

simple economics at play. they don't stock anything they might have to throw away at the end of the journey.

[New Judge]

"Soya milk /cream does not beat well."

That hardly surprising because it is not milk/cream.

[pixie374]

I don't hate vegans... I was a vegetarian for many years. I agree that animals should be looked after and respected properly, but don't necessarily agree that a short life is worse than no life at all.

[puzzled54]

I have been vegetarian for over 40 years and it was difficult in the early days to eat out or buy veggie food. I never liked meat as a child and stopped eating it as soon as I could. This new vegan movement though seems to have made life more difficult for me as the food companies and restaurants all seem to be trying to produce vegan products that taste, feel and even ‘bleed’ like meat. I don’t get it. If you don’t want to eat meat, why would you want to eat something that tastes like meat?

[New Judge]

"If you don’t want to eat meat, why would you want to eat something that tastes like meat?"

Indeed. One of life's great mysteries.

[Theland]

I only eat animals that eat grass.

[woofgang]

I don’t hate vegans....I mean why would I care?

[-Talbot-]

127?

I use whatever shampoo is in the bathroom.

[Theland]

Jesus ate lamb and fish.

[puzzled54]

But surely only kosher meat and fish

[nailit]

//Jesus ate lamb and fish.//
Jesus turned water into wine as well Theland.
Bet you wished you could do that ;-)

[Baldric]

I can turn wine into water an hour or so after drinking it ;o)

[nailit]

Ive tried eating a plant based (Vegan) diet. I was constantly hungry no matter how much I ate.
I once had a vegetarian girlfriend who cooked the most delicious meals. But again, I was constantly hungry.
I now eat eggs/meat and Im not hungry. So what does that say?
Everybodys different. I wished that we didn't have to eat animal products but the fact is, there has NEVER been a totally vegan society...ever...on Earth, that has thrived on a plant base diet.
All societies have consumed animal products in one form or another.

And the vegans/vegetarians... have you ever considered how many animals are ground up in the harvesting of your crops?
Just how many insects, mice, moles, voles, ground dwelling birds, rats, worms etc are caught up and killed in harvesting machines?

No such thing as a guilt free lunch.
Life eats life to survive. Just get over it, no way around it.
Enjoy your cucumber. Lots of life has died to provide it for you!

[nailit]

PS, I've worked on a farm, put animals down, and hated every minute of it. I loath animal cruelty and have worked for the RSPCA as well.
BUT...animals eat animals one way or another. I had to come to accept that!

[tonyav]

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[nailit]

^LOL Tony ;-)

[albaqwerty]

imo there's a world of difference between being vegan and a vegetarian.

I don't hate either.
Hate is such a wasteful emotion and consumes the person who hates.

[Calicogirl]

I don't hate Vegans. I've been Veggie and Vegan on and off myself as has Mr Cal (quite happy to admit I tried it and found it too difficult with my health issues and lifestyle), but I do hate some Vegans telling me I obviously:-
a. Don't know anything about farming (not true)
b. I couldn't kill an animal to eat (not true)
c. I don't care / like / love/ respect animals as much as they do (not true)
d. That I am uneducated and need to 'learn something', 'get something', 'understand something' and trying to blind me with inaccurate facts (like earlier in this thread how many eggs hens lay per year naturally)

a. I source any meat carefully. I'm mindful of how the animal is kept before it is slaughtered, so we eat free range organic (and I don't mean technically free range, I mean animals that have a good quality of life, fresh air, room etc- yeah I do bother to find that out). I'm also not adverse to roadkill, very often in the UK you'll drive down our lane into town and the lane will be clear and when you get back something has met it's end in the road- I'll take that and either eat it or feed it to the dogs- what a waste if no-one does).
b. I can and would kill and animal to eat. I'm comfortable skinning and gutting it and then eating it, it's patronising to suggest otherwise tbh.
c. I consider myself a great animal lover, I have rescued and tended injured things, rehomed things, retrained things, rehabilitated things. Conversely I have a Vegan friend who had a declawed cat who was never allowed out of her apartment, poor unhappy thing- and she reckons she loves animals more than I do... okaaaay then...
d. I'm perfectly aware I think, of most things Vegans are aware of. I despise intense farming and I don't support it in any way. I vote with my feet and my money and I let those firms know that and why.

It's not whether you eat meat that is important for me but the way the animal has lived before it dies. If you eat meat imho you have a duty to the animals you eat to make sure they are reared in a manner which allows them to live as naturally as possible and to try to stamp out factory farming by making informed choices about where you source that meat.

Those are my only issues with some Vegans, other than that I applaud your choices.

[SparklyKid]

Hi Cal. You talk about Mr Cal, are you married ??

[Calicogirl]

Yes Sparkly, beginning of March x